Depends on what the intensity is. If the 12 is just 70% of your 1rm then 6s are going to be ~55% which is just going to be way too easy, given a standard execution.
Nicholas Clark
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big weights + high intensity = muscle growth. it’s not rocket science literally a nigger can do it
Lincoln Sanchez
1-5 = strength 8-12 = strength + muscle grow 15-20 = muscle grow (more pump than 8-12 but less strength)
Lucas Butler
>....group training with an estimated 5-7 RIR saw the same muscle growth as a group training to failure
Still reading but seems to align with what I'm experiencing. RIR I assume is "reps in reserve" since the dipship 'researcher' was too much of a fucking idiot to even include the definition of the acronym.
Kayden Hill
That's pertaining to different percentages of one rep max. You're not going to do 15-20 reps (per set) at 90% of 1RM
Jaxson Johnson
From one of the studies >Twenty-five untrained men participated in the 8-week study. I hate this shit so fucking much.
How long have you been training for/how strong are you?
Asher Butler
Since you guys can't read, I explicitly stated "ASSUMING THE SAME WEIGHT". Not doing 70% 1RM here and 50% 1RM there.
Andrew Price
>same weight why would you use the same weight for sets of 6 than you do for sets of 12? obviously in this fake scenario the sets of 12 are better, but IRL when you do smaller sets with more breaks between it's so you can lift closer to your 1RM
Intensity changes/decreases as you reduce reps. A 12 RM (assuming you are going to failure) is around 70% of a 1 RM. Using 70% then as a baseline you might be looking at an intensity decrease of 3% per rep reduced from then on, so 8 reps would be around 58% and 6 would be 52% of a 1RM.
Liam Reyes
I know this goes against dogmatic laws of Any Forums I'm trying to investigate the hypothesis that total volume is more important than reps pure set. From what I've read, form and "good" sets and form are more important that strictly adhering to a reps-per-set program. I am more than happy to be proven wrong but I have yet to hear a compelling argument.
Jaxson Wright
Sorry fucked that post up. No proofreading.
Joseph Stewart
Only reps that matter are the tough ones you grind out, all the others are just to get you to those reps.
Gavin Murphy
Goddamn you are a fucking retard.
Nathaniel Hill
total volume is the same, what changes is intensity across all of those numbers you gave. your question isn't about volume/workload/tonnage, its about intensity.
Evan Wright
you are an idiot, please watch a few videos about the basics of weight training before trying to engage in conversations about the topic
Nolan Barnes
Whatever retard. My sets approach infinity reps and my weight approaches zero. Learn basic calculus
Kayden Ross
I don't think your muscles can tell a difference. I think putting X amount of load on your muscles for X number of reps will do a certain amount of damage to them, regardless of the rep/set scheme. Is there a difference between doing 8 reps, then 6, then 4, vs 3x6 with the same weight? I don't think so. Anecdotal, but I get the best results from straight sets.
Jaxson Cook
You get better gains by doing rep sets you enjoy doing. If you dont like doing 15-30 and prefer 6-8 or whatever, do them the majority of the time and progress with weight and cycle in some higher rep sets every once in a while
Brandon Miller
stop compromising, you're trying to make your work outs easier. if you are using a weight with which you can do 2x12, then you are in the "endurance" intensity range. it doesn't matter if you break it up in shorter sets, you are not going to get strength gains unless you increase weight.
imagine doing a 5x5 work out with the same weight you could do 1x25 with. does that sound like you'd get any gains ?
Brandon Jenkins
getdafuckouttahere with dat shit, no one falls for your jewish schemes anymore math man