>date infp >miserable and can't talk about anything, play vidya and ignore each other >date infj >talk about everything, improove together, never play vidya best relationship
Lucas Lopez
YOU ARE ALL NIGGER FAGGOTS! SUCKING BIG GIANT BLACK BALLS!
What's the difference between an unhealthy INFP and an unhealthy ISFP?
Bentley Jenkins
i don't care. i might fuck a bitch soon
Nicholas Ramirez
INFPs deserve love and protection
Jaxson Brown
We know you retarded tranny.
Jack Cook
>EIE has the largest variety of likely MBTI types Then what is the variety
David Roberts
yeah well i thought it might help me feel better, i had a shitty therapy session yesterday and talked about CSA and other tough stuff and i felt really lonely and i just wanted to quite the touch starvation but it was just triggering
>implying you're not the bitch
Aaron Evans
No one cares. Stop posting already
Isaac Gonzalez
>Say something nice about INFPs i'm INTP and i think something irks me about feeling doms/auxes in general. it's not necessarily that i don't like them as people or care about them or their feelings, but i just can't deal with it or keep up with that primary mode of being. it's so opposite to me that i just don't get it and it tires me to try to make sense of what they're actually saying or conveying through the feelings they bombard out physically or mentally. it's like solving a puzzle at the expense of my own emotional capacity and i end up just end up looking at the behavioral meta of them and the things they say because it's easier to understand. i.e. a feeler will complain about work and issues and i'll just see "oh, they're feeling a lack of control". or "oh, this persons emotional state is just shit because of stress" etc and just make assessments of situations or feelings like that.
i try to give emotional advice at my own expense when i can too if i think someone's down or try to pick them up and such with words, but i think feelings are just weird for me. i do try sometimes. no matter if i try them or not i feel like a simp or utterly cringe if i express any emotionality.
You could make a case for pretty much any type but IXTP, Fe and Ni in socionics are both very far removed from the MBTI definitions. Most likely is ENFP but not the UwU rainbow bubbles sprinkles genki ENFP, those are ESE and IEE. The defining features of an EIE are loud, dramatic, edgy, rebellious. ENTP, ENFJ, and INFJ are fighting for second place. XSFP are after them, EXTJ is surprisingly common but mostly in fiction INFP and ESTP are both uncommon but definitely possible. INTJ EIE is the stereotypical fruity villain, almost definitely impossible irl. ISXJ is also impossible now that I think about it, idk where ESFJ fits in but other types are more common for them
Also you could just not be an LSI, if ur an ISTP who went for the last letter switch just know SLI is more likely for you and thatd make IEE your dual
Cooper Fisher
Old macdonald had a farm
Hunter Nguyen
ISFP help me
William Perry
interesting, so an activation partner. makes sense
>Say something nice about INFPs Once I was FWBs with one, she thought it was more than that, so when she found out I was seeing someone else she called me, rather than get angry or panic she says she forgave me and understood she has been more absent lately with school and she would try to be more present, after explaining to her for the 80th time we weren't dating, she stopped crying, said oh okay then, then immediately asked if we could still see eachother later and if she could join me and the other girl sometimes. So that was pretty nice.
Kevin Long
Entps are likely to be EIE? Wtf I like sociomemes now I got lsi in some test that's why I think I am one
Ryder Brooks
INFPs daydream to pass the time. They are aware that life has no inherent meaning but have such a developed awareness of their personal values in life that it doesn't bother them. INFJs think their daydreams are super real and important. They try to create theatrics when their delusions are recognized for what they are.
Benjamin Turner
Holy fucking shit. Finally someone else who understands that MBTI and socionics are VASTLY different systems.
Chase Lee
[checked] I don't doubt that, but I find it odd considering both are ultimately based on Jung's Psychological Types. There shouldn't be that much difference in reality.
I appreciate it but you can delete it user, it'll save us a pic, (plus you got some white on the struggle box there)
Japanese Uhhh define femboy
Michael Hill
Damn I guess thats another thing I struggle with Do these threads normally reach image limit? I don't browse mbti often but generally I see threats reach reply limit before image limit
Ian Bell
>Uhhh define femboy would u send me a pic on discord,,?
Aaron Rivera
What's CSA? Confederate states of America? Anyway I hope you get better soon. There's more to life than sticking things up your bum, fun as it is. Men are awful, every last one of them, so my heart goes out to you if you feel like you need one to feel fulfilled. Do you have a hobby or something you could indulge in instead?
Not normally actually, we aren't bumping in the pic department like we once were. Pretty good about keeping things under budget organically. Im just being an Fe sperg or whatever, don't worry
tfw no affectionate mommy gf to excitedly talk to about everything and get lots of cuddles and be super clingy with
t. dumb infp
Michael Collins
child sexual abuse upsetting stuff to talk about and i talked about how my parents don't believe me even though they knew exactly who i was gonna mention before i said his name >There's more to life than sticking things up your bum i actually only gave head, i hate anal it just feels like needing to shit >Men are awful, every last one of them insanely based >so my heart goes out to you if you feel like you need one to feel fulfilled thanks, i have this one ex best friend who i am still madly in love with and i feel like i need a man in my life to help support me and stuff because that friend was so close and such a rock for me growing up >Do you have a hobby or something you could indulge in instead im playing morrowind and trying to not think about bad stuff rn. i will daydream later too
Noah Flores
Do mommy gfs like INFPs?
Noah Reed
I am an INFJ, how do I become more like pic related?
The social bits? >Be straightforward about what you want. >Be well-mannered without being servile You can achieve pretty much any position that way, all the other stuff is of course fiction and doesn't work irl lol. Well timed footsteps and homoerotic stares only do so much. You should also be able to hold a conversation but that's hard to do and almost redundant to work on. Also either have integrity or be really good at shifting the blame and securing a beneficial image, should be easy for INFJ manipulation chads like you and I but the tower of cards will fall if you aren't careful. Oh, also stop being afraid of death - should be easy for INFJ dissociation chads (also free yourself from the cycle of reincarnation, should be easy for INFJ illumination chads)
Cameron Perry
You go through all the hassle of being gay without even getting any of the joy of anal sex in return? What a nightmare. You sound like one of those women that complain about never having an orgasm because they're worried they'll pee themselves. You do you, it's just funny that it sounds like you go through all the hardship without getting the reward you poor dear.
For some reason I think you'd enjoy painting miniatures. Either generic games workshop space marines, green ones of course or a Napoleonic battalion of aggressive Frenchmen in their little blue coats. It's something I'd do if I had the space, but I think I'd go with the New Model Army because I like the idea of my army being made of puritan goodboys. Ideally John Okey's dragoons, but they'd only be time appropriate for 5 years lol.
As for the child sex abuse thingy, I dunno lol, worse things have happened at sea as mummy would say.
>INTP >Say something nice about INFPs I hope they find a cure soon.
Hudson Morgan
as an apathetic intp will i ever be able to deal with emotional people every time someone tries to vent to me i dont get it
Chase Miller
>the joy of anal sex t. has never done anal it's just bad >go through all the hardship without getting the reward the reward i want is love and friendship, not an orgasm >For some reason I think you'd enjoy painting miniatures 2poor4that
what don't you get?
Colton Martinez
Well no but I've heard it get glowing reviews and have managed to get quite a pleasurable effect out of both my index finger and a toothbrush. Maybe you, or much more likely your partner was just being too ambitious so you ended up with unfortunate experiences. Oh well it's probably better for your colon in the long run. >too poor for that Well you could at least play a fun game instead, Morrowind's boring.
im an enfp but every other enfp ive met irl or online is nothing like me. why is this???
Jose Carter
what's a fun game then, i've played too many games and very few are that good
Landon Ross
Every time I do these tests I get INTJ even though every time I feel I'm making enough different decisions. But I don't view myself as the meme images of INTJ being doctor house, so I always expect to get something else.
Camden Walker
Have you played rabi ribi? That's a fun game. Alternatively a rhythm game like Hatsune Miku future town has given me a few deeply spiritual experiences. Also the first puyo puyo tetris is worth a playthrough, I've heared good things about tetris effect instead if you're using game pass. Are you good at any first person multiplayer shooters?
You could be mistyped or you rely so heavily on a flawed system that you've forgotten your own identity. Anyway study cognitive functions, or if you're too lazy take a test on sakinorva
Owen Lopez
>rabi ribi no but it makes me think of a jewish frog >Hatsune Miku lol >puyo puyo are you japanese or something no offense >tetris boring boomer game >fps multiplayer shooters i get too much social anxiety for social games desu
Ethan Russell
An INTPs social perception is sometimes so poor that they cant understand the social language being used to manipulate them, making them hard to manipulate. Is there anything INTPs cant do? God even blessed them with retard strength
Landon Baker
finish projects
Camden Gutierrez
Pointless and not enjoyable, projects have no need to be completed
You have no need to live either, and yet here you are.
Gabriel Ortiz
>shooters >social Just disable voice chat duh. What's wrong with Miku? It's a fun game and you can play an admittedly quite limited dress up game by swapping around her heads and bodies. Puyo puyo tetris is one game where you play both puyo puyo and battle tetris. The story mode is fun if you don't mind it being extremely childish. The mode where it swaps between puyo and tetris every 20 seconds or so is extremely swollen brained, especially at first >boomer You're literally playing morrowind. The point is just that open world is the worst genre for when you're in a slump. Play something that isn't just a dreary expanse of text and nothingness you miserable arse. Next time I'll just answer Marunomi and be done with it.
Avoiding fear is not important at all. It just makes you a spineless pussy that can't handle any sort of adversity.
Austin Cox
Avoiding fear is much more important that avoiding a silly social stigma and everyone would agree with me in the face of death
Juan Ward
Avoiding fear is literally the least important thing on the planet. If you can't confront your fear, you're a weak, spineless pussy. Simple as. You'll never complete anything because you're constantly running from your problems. To each their own, I suppose.
Ryan Thompson
Wtf, I'm older than Jon was when he quit game grumps
Nicholas Price
Oh no im a weak spineless pussy, whatever shall i do about it? Im honestly glad my ego is wounded easily like yours
Nolan Morgan
You'll keep avoiding anything that frightens you. Also, nice projection. >I want to do a thing >Oh no, I'm afraid I'll fail >Guess I'll just give up and avoid my fears :^)
>I want to ask this girl out >Oh no, I'm afraid she'll say no >Guess I'll just give up and avoid my fears :^)
Liam Hernandez
It tends to work out better for me than facing my fears as facing my fears only throws more fears at me. Get a job and you will be in it for years. Get a girlfriend and you will have to keep up an act for months/years. Its all so much effort and the reward looks like a hundred dollar bill on the top of mount Everest. A mere mockery
Justin Myers
That's the thing about being weak, user. You've proven my entire point. Matte ne~
Josiah Collins
Dont you care alot not looking like a pussy? You avoid social fears hypocrite
Cameron Martinez
No, I don't care about looking like a pussy. There's a difference between being literally weak and incapable of fending off adversity and "looking like a pussy". Weak people give into their fears, that is you and why you are incapable of completing anything. I don't avoid social fears either, I push through them. If I see a cute girl I want to talk to, I talk to her. If I want to try something, I try it. If something frightens me, I question why it frightens me, then I asses whether that fear is worthy. For example, I might die. That's a worthy fear. I don't run in the street because I'm afraid of getting hit by a car. This is smart. If I get into a relationship and I want to break it off, I break it off. Your entire personality is controlled by fear and it makes you weak because you refuse to confront it.
>Get a job and you will be in it for years Quit and find something new. >Get a girlfriend and you will have to keep up an act for months/years. Break up with her and find someone new.
Zachary Bennett
Why do you care so much about not being weak? You put bravery on such a high pedestal, surely you cant be scared of being weak? How macho of you. Thats sarcasm if you cant tell Also how many people do i have to try it with before im allowed to give up? Give me a number
Weak people cannot do anything, that is why. They just sit around and whine and cry about how tough everything is. Woe is me! MY life is so hard! Waaah, pity me! It's very simple, if you want to give up, give up. Quit bitching and kill yourself.
Juan Morgan
And whats so important to do? Working? Participating in a boring marriage? Experiencing mild entertainment every now and then? If thats your life, it sounds even worse than mine, atleast im not committed to any of this garbage
Grayson Hughes
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>an average house cat requires 3 pouches of cat food per day lmao wtf. No wonder my brother has no money Each 2-3 pound box of 12 is enough to feed two cats for two days at best. What a drain on the environment. 450 quid a year on cat food. 16 years and 7,200 pounds later and all you've got is a pair of dead animals. I wish people did this sort of maths before buying the things.
>Post type, your waifu (or closest to one), and the character you find the sexiest INFP. Never quite sure on the waifu. Sexiest character is easily Hex Maniac though. I've spilled ungodly amounts of cum to her over the years. Damn near perfect in every way. If a girl like her really existed, and looked that pretty, I'd put a ring on her by the end of the day, that's for sure. Honestly agree. I never felt like a kid because i was always stressed and wanted to be involved to help my family, but i never felt like an adult either, especially now that i technically am one. What a strange in between. Not one thing, or the other...
I agree with the other user that said we likely missed out on some type of developmental milestones. I've become quite obsessed with that idea, really. Always wondering day and night what went wrong to put me in this situation. I know it's likely not healthy to blame the world around you rather than yourself, but i already internally hate on myself. I just constantly get this hazy, but passionate desire to know the "why" of it all. Or how, i guess. >What's CSA? Confederate states of America? Bro i thought the same fucking thing Holy based. I need that. I need to be protected, but also protect. It's hell
If you don't want to be here, you know the exit. I'm not here to plead with you to live. Just telling you how it is. You're a giant pussy who is completely ruled by their own fears. Keep leeching off your parents, or whoever it is you're sucking dry to keep your meaningless existence going. Eventually they'll die and you'll be left alone. Then you'll experience true fear and just like always, you'll give up. Your transgressions will catch up to you, they always do.
Luis Jones
We are looping, i already gave my reasons for why i dont do that, you have a poor memory meaning its pointless to talk to you anymore, who knows what else is going to be deleted from your goldfish brain from this point on?
Ayden Barnes
holy cum, this might be my favorite oc I've seen here. lel >weekly cannabis, monthly shroom x))) apotheotic work; mine can't compare
Same reason for literally everything else. Fear. You're completely consumed by it and it makes you weak. Some people are content being weak. Like I said, it will catch up to you. See you around, weakling.
Daniel Hernandez
So what are you trying to tell me? To do something you should know i wont do? This conversation cant be more pointless and i dont know why you dont go away since you clearly have nothing to say
Blake Sullivan
ENTJ women were made for being dominated by ENFJ men by means of being manipulated and positively reinforced into behaving vulnerably.
If it's pointless, why don't you go away? Unless, of course, you're afraid of being alone. No one else to talk to? Afraid to be left with your own thoughts? Just go sit quietly by yourself and weep about how hard and terrible everything is.
Eli Fisher
You could say that my standards are extremely low, i have to pick between you or nothing. The things you say are pointless but i dont have anything to divert my attention to, its very sad
Jaxson Wilson
Yes, I agree you are a very sad and weak being. You did this to yourself. Anyway, I'm going to bed. Enjoy your continuously vapid, pointless conversations.
For any ISFJ males lurking the thread, INFP gfs are one of the best girls. Can be bratty at times but you know what is best for them. You probably will have to make many decisions for her. INTP and ENTP girls may seem enticing but INFP girls are more comfy.
I see, thank you. I could see Se spontaneity playing into inferior Ne worry. I'm guessing friends allows a buffer that helps you engage in the given activity so your strengths can shine without feeling like a fish out of water, right? Would you say an accurate generalization is ISTP = tactics, ISFJ = strategy?
INTP here, why the hell are there so many INFP this thread
Furthermore why do they all act like mentally challenged autists
Justin Gutierrez
>your type >favorite book
Ryder Jenkins
I'm also ENFP. And have trouble relating. I read a book called the highly sensitive person & learned that some ENFPs would naturally have become INFPs, but because they grew up being extremely involved in their church community (ding ding ding! My childhood), they switched from I to E. I'm very E in many ways but I relate closer to Is.
Nathan Davis
Putting mistype aside for a moment, two people of the same type can still be very different and stereotypes are often inaccurate. Either way, read about functions: you are supposed to be Extraverted and Introverted Intuitives respectively.
Charles Kelly
Are there actually that many INFPs IRL or are they all on Internet? I only see INFPs everywhere and am INFP myself (pretty sure about that since I've analyzed functions on my own and all the tests show the same)
Matthew Green
INxx mostly show up on internet, but keep in mind they are the most common mistypes so the numbers are highly inflated.
Lucas Turner
Why are they the most common mistypes though?
Owen Russell
Because tests and descriptions tend to be biased in favor of these types as a whole or at least Introversion/Intuition traits over their opposites. Intuitive bias is unironically built-in ever since Myers' Gifts Differing, and there is some confusion between the Jungian and the common definition of extraversion. And we don't talk about the major difference between Jungian Si and MBTI Si.
There are some other aspects, such as extraverts being able to identify as introverts despite the fact they are habitually extraverting and traits of mental illness(including depression and INFPs) being associated with some types even if they aren't actually related.
Dylan Brooks
What is the most accurate way to type oneself then with as few biases as possible, in your opinion?
Elijah Davis
No easy way around it: all you can do is studying the theory behind it from credible sources, do some introspection and guesswork. Tests might give you some hints, for instance it's unlikely you are a Feeler if you consistently get low F scores.
David Jenkins
Bros... what is gonig on in Any Forums right now...?
No, handwriting doesn't say anything about your type
Logan Adams
>autistic female inxp tries to use me as her emotional tampon >boohoo chad is having sex with someone else right now >i dont understand i dont understand i tell her that the other girl is clearly more attractive >she tells everyone i am how mean i am and that I hurt her >i am now the devil/hitler combined i guess chad actually had more than one reason
Kevin Fisher
That girl was definitely not an intuitive. Just another whore. Probably ISFP or something.
You do not understand how rare intuitive women are. They are quite unlike anything when you actually meet them, (with the exception of ENFPs and ENFJs)
Jace Phillips
Nothing in that post suggests the woman in question wasn't an intuitive
Matthew Peterson
Literally everything did. A complete basic bitch, either a Fi Dom or a Fe Dom.
Jeremiah Perry
I am a violent INFP. You don't wanna fuck with me.
Josiah Wilson
Fucked that whole thing up... >your type INTP >favorite book Still Starship Troopers even as I add more to my literary Read mountain.
Gavin Flores
Is you definition of intuitive "everything I like"? Because she could easily be one despite being a "basic bitch".
If anything, touching her insecurity, the very fact she didn't think about it and producing such a reaction is actually a hint for lower Sensation, even if it's a very small one that might mean nothing at all since most women would be sensitive about their looks. On the other hand there isn't any hint for being a S type.
Daniel Taylor
Can't determine much from writing other than order and word choice which isn't much to go off of. The real issue is most put actual effort into their writing rather than writing "naturally" like we tend to do with spoken word and so you are receiving a "false" or "edited" appearance of the person via their edited written word.
Logan Smith
There is a strong hint of her being a S type.
She is evidently a basic bitch, and the vast majority of women are S types.
I rest my case, this discussion is over.
Connor Nelson
So yeah, you have nothing at all aside from "S=bad"
Nolan Smith
I just wrote naturally without even looking at my writing. I have compared his handwriting to previous writing and it is the same.
Caleb Cruz
>and the vast majority of women are S types. Extraverted Intuitives are more likely to be women, while Extraverted Sensors are more likely to be men, that was according to Jung. He didn't say much about introverts, except that Introverted Feelers are also more likely women.
Sebastian Martinez
Not them but that sounds like every conversation I've ever had with an INFP. >wah X thing in the world isn't how I want it >because it doesn't matter how you want it? That's how life works. >suddenly hitler because I revealed the sacred truth that the universe is indifferent to us at best and hostile at worse which is why impressive individuals that can change things are impressive and by nature of you sitting there bitching at me about your inability in that field means you aren't one of those people and so they just bitch harder and to everyone else because now they have a new bone to chew on and I have to fire another idiot I think there has been 1 INFP I could actually like and she shoots people she finds on principle as possible poachers these days because that's where this truth lead her and I'm 95% sure this is how she is dealing with childhood trauma of her dog being shot by a hunter as a kid.
Matthew Murphy
>violent infp does this mean you're covered in self harm scars
lol most men are sensors >muh dick >muh sports
James Young
Then you probably don't have either T or N that particularly high up on your stack. They tend to be the types that have "doctors" writing. Where its done so fast and loose it's basically chicken scratch. I've noticed S and F functions being higher up tends to lead towards cleaner writing. You ever practice your handwriting?
Brayden Reed
xSxP
Jason White
this is a love post for all the INxPs out there, you guys are the best and you provide so many interesting conversations, and make me feel at ease, i hope life isnt too hard on you guys - female enfj
No one gets along with them cause behind your back everyone fucking hates you
Robert Thompson
What type is this? >Intuition means the non-mediated perception that something is present. A logical proposition is made of signs, but the identity between two propositions is an object that is perceived by consciousness directly, not through signs, and is, therefore, the object of intuition. Furthermore, understanding these propositions is the same as understanding without mediation its apodictic truth. Again, if the identity between two propositions is not present to consciousness without mediation, then it is simply impossible to perceive it. Either the conection between two propositions is perceived in a single intuition, or it is never perceived at all (otherwise we would fall into and endless regression). Therefore, the operation of reason itself is founded upon intuition or it has no founding at all. Hence, there are not two kinds of knowledge, one rational and the other intuitive. There is only the difference between logical and sensible intuitions. Reasoning is not, therefore, an operation specifically different from intuition, it is just the intuition of a special kind of object, which is the logical or ideal object. More generically, a thing may be thought indirectly through a sign, but the sign itself has to be perceived directly and not through another sign.
Mason Richardson
iirc some anons said similar N scores meant aux N. but I wouldn't rule out the tert slot personally. >4 diff between Se and Si >5 diff between Te and Ti >3 diff between Fe and Fi >Ti > Fi slightly >Fe > Te slightly >Si > Ni slightly >Ne > Se slightly >Ti+Fe score > Te+Fi score slightly >Ne+Si score > Ni+Se score slightly these are all hard to extrapolate in-depth data from. the machine must be working with small margins. Most obvious thing to say is don't put too much thought into this test result in particular.
Nathan Jones
I like to think of it as leaving room for continuous improvement.
Isaac Clark
Don't know about their type but I think this quote applies to specifically to the function of Intuition and Thinking being used together as opposed to just Intuition. An idea/thought can become object of Intuition and it will follow the standard routine of scenting out the possibilities/potential contained within, but so can anything else.
Why did they give the INFP such a fat dumptruck of an ass?
Michael Sanders
Because she sits on that fat dumptruck all day eating sweets and shitposting
Nathaniel Taylor
It's one of the INFPs good attributes. That's why they're the perfect wife material and why they're the femboy type.
Jayden Richardson
That's where they store all the Feeling. Bigger ass or tits = more feeling and it all goes inwardly since they are introverts.
Kevin Sullivan
>No Ni dom/Niaux+sensor pair is possible Seems really fake, especially given how INFJ girls seem to always flock to ESFP men
Colton Hill
Compatibility charts are a meme, don't think about it too much.
Kevin Thomas
yea that's why i fucked with it to put the original in question
Liam Perez
elaborate? all women flock to se dom men
Adrian Thomas
Why is this? Filter bypass fuck you r9kay
Daniel Diaz
Se initiates
Eli Peterson
Why is there an mbti thread on s4s? We don't need two mbti threads
Brody Sanchez
im inxp but relate a lot to infps, i get along with xntjs
Carson Sanchez
confident funny playful energetic dominant athletic (more often than not) street smart successful (more often than not) show initiative stand up for themselves competitive resourceful undemanding (when younger)
Matthew Green
They're very genuine, which can be a good and admirable trait depending on what the particular thoughts or feelings are that they're being genuine about.
What do you think about the idea that Thinkers aren't necessarily any less emotional than Feelers? To me, much of the time it feels as though they *are* less emotional. Maybe that's not something specifically baked in to the theory, but for some reason in the finished product T types end up seeming less emotional in general than F types (though they also seem to occasionally get hit abnormally hard whenever something does manage to land a hit, a handful of moments that are like a September 11th to their psyche)
I'm older than Jontron was when... wait, I'm older than Jontron period.
Introverted but seems a bit more quirky and offbeat than mainstream and conventional, I'd guess either INFP or ISFP. Probably ISFP.
I'm an ENFP and the "Thinkers are cold and unfeeling" is absolutely a meme. My younger sister is an on-the-nose ENTJ, and she's incredibly caring and loving. The issue with Thinkers, at least Te doms, which I can speak to, is that their emotions are kind of trapped inside of them. My sister is a logical person who is the first to point out cold truths, and her favorite thing to remind me of is that "The hurtful truth is always better than a well-meant lie." I come to her a lot of times for help and comfort on issues, and I get more advice and chastising than comfort. Over time I have learned that her giving me advice and pragmatic solutions IS her way of showing love. Her way of fixing my problems and helping me feel better is providing solutions that I hadn't considered before, or giving me the guts to pull it together and get back onto my feet. She doesn't have the most patience for me when I just want to whine and complain about my problems, and receive comfort instead of solutions, but she still listens for my sake. I learned that ENTJs also worry inside about how people perceive them- a lot. But she worries in particular about upsetting people. She sees it as a necessity, and that you have to hurt feelings sometimes to make people feel better. When you give someone medicine, it's bitter when they take it, but it makes them feel better afterwards. She worries a lot about upsetting the people she cares about. I think this is why ENTJs sometimes develop demon Fi. They understand logically that they must upset people from time to time, but they are still human. It never feels good to hurt somebody, even if it's for their own benefit.
Isaac Ramirez
where can I find the original? sensor x intuitive incompatibility is overblown imo why do you think she isn't enfj? just curious weird af thread >competitive >resourceful >successful youre really going to pretend these are purely sensor traits?
Eli Taylor
>Thinkers aren't necessarily any less emotional than Feelers? I mean maybe sure if they repress their emotions otherwise no. but if they do that then theyre not presenting as feelers to the outside anyway
Nathan Richardson
>youre really going to pretend these are purely sensor traits? Never said they were, retard. Regardless all of them are far more common in Se doms than, like, INXPs. Pretty much very sensor is more resourceful and successful than their intuitive counterpart, archetypically at least
Jason Davis
every*
NTR4R
Carson Jenkins
>Over time I have learned that her giving me advice and pragmatic solutions IS her way of showing love >over time Retard it took you that long?
Brody Perry
>resourceful intuition is all about resourcefulness though and seeing the possibilities with what you have sensors are dumb as a brick when it comes to that
Christopher Allen
lolno sensors work in factories and deliver my amazon packages
Camden Morris
and they still get more pussy than u lol
Kayden Ross
>intuition is all about resourcefulness though and seeing the possibilities with what you have lol maybe with ideas but thats worth jackshit in the real world I bet its sensors letting you live in their basement too o-Ne-esan
Caleb Rodriguez
Intuitives are the artist, sensors are the paint brush. Which one paints the painting?
Samuel Bailey
that makes zero sense at all retard paint brushes are not alive and cannot be typed
Colton Rivera
>i can't think in the abstract
Jackson Morris
it doesn't even make sense in the abstract.
Jordan Cruz
>and her favorite thing to remind me of is that "The hurtful truth is always better than a well-meant lie."
That's potentially true, I guess, but it can also be used as a shield to deflect any kind of criticism. "I'm just saying the truth, so if anyone doesn't like what I have to say, it HAS to be because they're a dumb whiny faggot who can't handle the truth. No other reason is possible." A hurtful truth is better than a well-meant lie sometimes, but the person giving said feedback has to be intelligent enough and reasonable enough to determine what the "truth" actually is. If someone doesn't like something harsh that you have to say, it's possible that everything you said was completely and utterly accurate and the other person is just upset because you're being blunt... or they could be getting mad because you're a retard with shit takes and nothing you say is accurate or worthwhile. Both options are genuinely possible. Again, depends on how reasonable and insightful the person giving the feedback is.
>She doesn't have the most patience for me when I just want to whine and complain about my problems, and receive comfort instead of solutions, but she still listens for my sake.
Yeah, I've never had patience for people who get irritated this easily. I can understand getting annoyed, slowly, over time, if someone's frequently excessively whiny and pathetic, but as an every-once-in-a-while thing from an otherwise reasonable and balanced person? Get that stick out of your fucking ass and let people vent every once in a while. It's not that god damn big a deal.
>and that you have to hurt feelings sometimes to make people feel better
Sometimes It depends on an interplay between the situation that's being discussed, and the two people involved. If someone frequently hurts others that comes to them for advice, it's likely that their feedback just genuinely isn't very good. Again: being harsh is not a guarantee of accuracy.
>dumb sensor outs themselves I laughed more than I should have at this
Zachary Brooks
this except replace intuitives with Ni doms and sensors with subhuman trash
Logan Parker
Thinkers and Feelers are vastly different on this aspect. Feelers are used to be more direct with their feeling expressions, not to mention that their Thinking is usually used negatively(e.g. for biased criticism or even worse for scheming) instead. It might take some time to understand their framework is reversed for Thinkers: who are going express themselves through their Thinking while the feeling expression is more indirect or hidden, again except when they use it negatively(e.g. expressing anger, hate etc.)
Ryan Campbell
intuitives are the virgins, sensors are the chads. which one does the fucking? oh wow i did it too retard i just made up some completely retarded statement that makes zero sense at all.
Easton Diaz
ESFP men are baffling because they're kinda faggy with how vain they are, using creams, special shampoos and other cringe girly shit, also how catty they can be with muh feels and "you hurt my pride" attitude, yet at the same time they look very manly to women and they can't help wanting to suck their dicks? Is it just a meme the women like stoic men, after all? Otherwise it would be the ISTPs who'd be the pussy slayers, not ESFPs
Both statements are correct. If painters were inserted into vaginas nearly as much as paint brushes are, we wouldn't even have had a ww2
Brandon Campbell
Don't care nigga I know all that shit how do you not understand that someone giving you advice is them caring for you? I'm just surprised you didn't know at the very beginning
Because OP described his/her sister as being caustic and prickly and thus assumed that annoyance was probably their primary emotion rather than concern?
Julian Anderson
If someone doesn't care then they tell you to fuck off. Simple as that
Jose Wright
Sometimes I wonder if that one's ESFP.
Isaac Williams
I just explained you why, but to make it even more clear: the Feeler in this case was (perhaps unconsciously) projecting their own framework and trying to understand the Thinker based on it, which of course would lead to confusion and misunderstandings.
Also this. You have to keep in mind the "feeling expession" of Thinkers can give out a much different impression than what they are actually feeling due to the fact it's mostly unadapted to it.
Caleb Wright
That's cool but maybe you could stop nagging them over something that's been resolved for months if not years
Anthony Adams
No. I am right and they are wrong
Asher Barnes
Didn't hitler get pussy though?
Anthony Sanchez
Who, Sophie? He's the last regular to post
Thomas Reed
the soil demanded sacrifice
Ryder Williams
shit-tier women liek teh niggas who type lik this... typical esfp wigger retards who cant be bothred to type in a manner that dosnt make u puke from how wigger it is
Cooper Flores
No, the other one.
Jacob Butler
Turbie? Surely not...
Jaxon Cruz
oh also......... don't forget the millions of dots these niggers do............
Mason Collins
An ESFP ex-friend of mine would sometimes use ellipses that were probably 40 or 50 dots. I don't think I've used ellipses longer than the standard three dots past the age of 15-16.
bro.... why do these nigs do it..? fucking annoying shit to see....... and im a sensor
Joshua Gomez
Hell, I'm annoying myself by just typing this kek
Joseph Perez
o yea also.... dont forhget the black rapper pfp who looks like a retard with shit teeth and retarded hair
Jaxson Kelly
they don't know.............................. about the dots...........
Ryan Young
Guys, I'm home alone for the weekend for the first time in a long time and all I want is to nap on her lap. I don't feel these feels. How much vodka to not feel this?
No, I didn't. How the fuck did that even cross your mind you fucking retard. In what world does boring and dumb equals bimbo.
Nicholas Adams
>In what world does boring and dumb equals bimbo it's like squares and rectangles bimbos are often boring and dumb but just because someone is boring and dumb doesn't mean they're a bimbo
Elijah Smith
So what types ARE bimbos?
Aiden Cruz
Bimbo: Slur for an attractive, sexualized, naive, and unintelligent woman
INFP women are quite literally bimbos.
Kayden Nelson
How are INFPs "attractive" or "sexual"?
William Ortiz
How do you even enjoy such mind numbing conversation that has absolutely nothing to do with types much less with anything else.
Xavier Baker
You're stupid, I'm not even going to attempt to explain anything to you.
Ethan Richardson
I'm just curious... I won't argue with you.
Jordan Kelly
Reading isn't your strong suit, eh?
Jose Rogers
Sneeding isn't your strong suit, eh?
Zachary Harris
Breeding isn't your strong suit, eh?
Owen Jackson
snow day lazy, eh? gettin drunk kinda crunk
max boredom love some whoredom niggers are black fuck the world
Cooper Perez
got that tism makes you schism leave me be i'm more in glee
shit's thumpin head huntin head i live in fuck jews
Ayden Campbell
let's just be honest, you might as well throw shit in this fucking sewer that is this thread now
Ask the INFPs, I don't know why they have to ruin everything.
Michael Stewart
how do they ruin eveything?
Ryder Perry
sewer bump
Dominic Myers
Damn I was just about to sage this garbage thread too.
Samuel Ward
let it die it needs to reset
Easton Parker
How is resetting it going to change anything? The next one will literally be worse than this. Just like this one was worse than the last, and that one was worse than the previous.
Dominic Jenkins
it's not that bad for Any Forums stop complaining it just needs more energy
Andrew Smith
Samefagging infp or intj
William Sanchez
take your meds intp
Ryan Bailey
reply to this post if you haven't quit mbti, you've had thread in a tab this whole time, you just haven't had the energy or excuse to post. i know that's how i've been.
Dylan Murphy
>be INFP >completed sorceress school a few months ago >am generally seen as unattractive I guess I'm mistyped.
Nathaniel Allen
I've been playing terraria with my buddy
James Fisher
inxp here this is true i had to deal with my estp dad today and that was crappy
Nathan Davis
I've been hooked on this dumb series with a million episodes.
Bentley Kelly
yeah, well for the last two hours since that's when I woke up anyway. I should have breakfast, that sometimes fixes things
There isn't even much of a point to post in these threads anymore. It's all vapid, worthless, overly generalized shit; barely anyone seems to even comprehend MBTI anymore beyond an extremely remedial understanding. There aren't even good questions anymore. The reading comprehension of the entire thread has tanked to retard levels. At this point, I just keep this thread open to laugh at how bad it's gotten.
I hate you circlejerk faggots, you ruined a nice thread with your incessant circlejerking. Can't even stay on topic for more than two sentences. You can't read, nor do you understand MBTI. It's just bland, vapid generalizations, as if a premise applies to every person of a type. It's boring, and disgusting. Take a shower, faggot.
Adam Sanchez
Circlejerking about what? ...I actually though it was a reasonable thread until doomposters showed up...
Parker Johnson
>...I actually though it was a reasonable thread Guess we read two different threads, resume your circlejerking.
Levi Thompson
What's worse than cats? Neurotic old sick cats. And these things are ageing.
Anyway nobody gave any opinions on what humanity's type is overall. Probably should have made it the thread question desu. Maybe next time.
Well that's kind of a bad question and depends entirely on what aspects of humanity you'd consider. In this day and age... Maybe ESTP? Ni inferior - worries about it's future yet disregards it in favour of momentarily Se Fe-Ti an Fi-Te can both be argued I guess. I think we want harmony with nature (Fe) but Ti (our system) and Se usually overrides that.
Robert Fisher
As an INFP, [insert generic useless text]
Brayden Sanchez
as an infp, I just feel completely broken inside even after years of hard work in therapy
David Harris
Cope. Seethe. Dilate fucking CSD INFP's r for the win
Eli Baker
literally what said
Zachary Moore
Who are you kidding, no infp could put years of hard work into anything.
Charles Watson
Tolkien was supposedly INFP. That guy put in autismo levels of work.
Jason Robinson
therapy is a lie. cut off processed food, swallow 2 eggs everyday, cut off unnecessary people n do stuffs u know u need to do
Nolan Edwards
Yeah he daydreamed for decades like the INFP he is, he just also happened to write that shit down. >I-I-I'M DAYDREAMINGGGG AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>never had a job >never been to the gym >always sheltered, and culturally, family would never kick me out >previously diagnosed with GAD + suicidal so i can feel the eggshells when family tries talking about school or work >always end up ghosting closest friends >extremely unhealthy >enabled to indulge in these behaviors because both are so soft to me or stopped caring INFP 4w5 male artist here. How do I climb out of NEETdom and become healthier to accomplish my personal goals? i.e. Live alone comfortably in a nice little town, make good art, and be a good friend.
>can drive, but hate driving (i hate the freeway) >can cook simple, staple dishes >commission route is possible, but burnout very fast >could also try selling at conventions, but it is absolute cancer trying to get a table >computer is decent enough to handle art streams/videos >have the tools and okay skill, but "the feels" incapacitate every attempt i've made to improve Current thought is to do a few commissions to get myself a gym membership, have my own healthy eating food budget, and decide from there
>5w4 inxp what I've been doing to get out of neethood is roughly as follows >address mental health issues according to severity >BPD/self harm/SI first this was actively ruining my life and making it impossible to maintain any relationships >anorexia second less of an immediate threat than wanting to kill myself but had a long term negative impact on my health to the point it was affecting my ability to work and eventually the eating behaviours got so bad it was threatening my life so i had to deal with it >ptsd and childhood trauma third with the first two more stabilized, i'm able to put more effort into the harder psychological work. BPD was just about learning DBT which took a year or so of essentially schooling, and anorexia was more about pushing through the refeeding period and then establishing healthy eating patterns, ptsd and trauma stuff is scarier and more emotionally difficult and I wouldn't have been able to tackle it without the other two things under control. These days, I'm still working on trauma work but I just moved into an apartment by myself. I'm on disability because of mental illness, which helps with finances, and I'm working on getting food stamps and applying to part time jobs to help even more. I think trying to focus on creating an environment where you feel safe and able to meet your basic needs is most important. You need to have a solid platform on which to build your life, otherwise you might be able to make things work for a while but eventually everything will come crashing down and it will fucking suck sorry for the long autism post
Jack Thompson
I was hosting a movie day and been shooting the shit ever since
William Rodriguez
Only his cousin's lmao
Mason Long
Holy shit user you are almost literally me. I'm so sorry you must suffer like this, friend
Why do you care about the gym so much lmao. If you're that unhealthy just eat better. I've barely even moved in two years and I feel great. Convinced "excercise" is a scam. I mean your heart is the thing that gives out first and that's always doing something. Also women live 10 years longer than men on average, and when's the last time a woman exerted herself amirite? Wrestlers all die of heart failure in their 50s.
How much do you charge for commissions anyway? And are you doing porn?
Eva braun wasn't his cousin though. He just also wanted to fuck his hot 14 year old cousin, doesn't mean he actually went through with it.
trans e-celebs on /mbti/. turbie is infj and always responds with emoticons. sophie is also infj and known for getting into fights with randoms over her pronouns.
Alexander Cooper
Yeah, sophie threatened to drown my rabbit last time I used "She/Her" instead of "bat/ber". INFJs are strange
Brody Howard
>"I am a violent INFP. You don't wanna fuck with me." >later that day
This shit is horoscopes for men. I don't even believe in introvert or extrovert. Being alone for awhile can be nice but stick leave anyone alone for more than a day and they will go batshit insane. Except if you are an autist
Easton Cruz
I don't understand this meme. It's nothing like horoscopes.
Kayden Young
i'd fuck IxxJ, xNTP or maybe xNFP as an ENTJ myself.
Ian Howard
Thanks for sharing this user. I think I'm in the gray zone where I'm not ill enough to receive disability, but too autistic/mentally underdeveloped to change things by my own power. "What to do" is in my head but operationalizing tasks can be tough.
>You need to have a solid platform on which to build your life, otherwise you might be able to make things work for a while but eventually everything will come crashing down and it will fucking suck Hmm, I guess I'll give therapy another try. GAD has reduced below the point of needing meds and crippling daily activities, but I fear that constantly burying my low self-esteem issues under a veil of positive hopelessness obscures my understanding of the big picture. I learned how to cope, but the root of the problem still affects everything I do and think.
I believe we can get through it, as bleak as it feels. There are tons of hurdles to get over, but I've been able to lean over to the optimistic side thanks to drawing and all my other hobbies. So, I hope you have things like that, friend.
The environment might do me good. Other than that, general health benefits like getting better sleep and not feeling so lethargic all the time. I don't have that kind of space at home.
>just eat better If I wasn't so mentally weak, I would. I try for a week, sometimes two, and end up losing to cravings. I was able to do keto for a month while buying my own food, but the moment I didn't have money, it all fell through. Often feels pointless if I don't have that sort of control.
>How much do you charge for commissions anyway? Haven't done one in a while, but I've been able to get $40 per character.
>And are you doing porn? Not yet and I'm not well-practiced in it either. It's difficult to draw when a bunch of kids and other relatives can easily see. Never had my own room.
Extravert/introvert types are the easiest difference to obseve and the core of Jung's research in Psychological Types. >Being alone for awhile can be nice but stick leave anyone alone for more than a day and they will go batshit insane Definitions being different aside, that sounds like you are an extravert.
Noah Jones
>your type >how often do you feel like pic related >why do you think that happens
India November Tango Jabalya >say something nice about INFPs Feelings so pure and genuine that its fragile. Handle with care; this side up. They're like cesium if it could react with itself to cause an explosion. But when they push themselves to be good for the people they care for they're the cesium clocks of the world: very devoted to doing their best.
>vulnerably God I hate this word so much it's unreal. What's vulnerable about feelings? Everyone seems to accept this as fact only because they see everyone else accept it as fact. One may have trouble with expression, sure, but I don't believe this deserves that ugly word.
>I don't even believe in introvert or extrovert No? You mean you don't feel like your energy is being drained or gained when socialising? It's the most believable dichotomy.
Henry Sanders
>What's vulnerable about feelings? In MBTI terms, this might be born by the fact Thinking types (ExTJ, IxTP) have Feeling as their inferior function and feel vulnerable whenever they have to express it. But that isn't true for Feeling types (ExFJ, IxFP) since it's their superior function and they are supposed to feel "strong" in this field.
Sensation and Intuition types fall in the middle, but it's not their inferior function and if they have it as their conscious auxiliary there isn't so much vulnerability about it.
Logan Sanchez
That's the meme-tier definition. I/E have a different meaning in Jung, it's about a psychological attitude that gives more "importance" to either the inner or outer world.
Sebastian Hill
I wonder if enneagram user's ever gonna explain himself
>What if I'm the one looking for a pillow? hope she's feeling charitable
Yeah I know, I was just responding with the model they were referring to.
Big5 introversion/extroversion is the only Big5 metric I take seriously. The other metrics seem more context-sensitive and less innate.
Ian Nelson
You're the INFP who got typed as 8w7 by another user, right?
INFP and 8w7 is a huge contradiction so I wouldn't think too much about it.
Dylan Stewart
>The other metrics seem more context-sensitive and less innate. You are kidding, right? Big 5 Extraversion is possibly the less innate possible compared to the original from Jung
Jonathan Gutierrez
but that's why i'm so interested in their reasoning!
8 is the most grounded enneatype and INFP is the least grounded MBTI type. 8 correlates heavily with Se/Te and INFPs are Te inferior.
Jung also said that Fi doesn't wish to influence others, which rules out assertive cores (enneatype 3,7,8,) for Fi doms.
Connor Nelson
>Jung also said that Fi doesn't wish to influence others Yeah, in normal cases. You can actually have exceptions. And the Fi type still has a more indirect influence.
Tyler Reyes
I'm speaking from experience mostly. Sure, I'm more socially "open" with certain people about certain things, but the "energy drain" factor for me is uniform for all people I talk too and anything that's discussed.
Xavier Harris
one time i was so grounded my mom even took away my yugioh cards (but it's true i didn't get grounded much, being a goodboy and all)
>Fi type still has a more indirect influence yea i definitely still wanna influence, just in a way that honors their personal sovereignty (when operating in light, anyway)
>INFP >often >because nothing about the world we find ourselves in neither makes sense or is normal. That's my explanation anyway.
You're so extreme lol. Anyway, just work out how much money you need to acquire in a year to sustain yourself and do that. You can do 400 characters a year right? That'd get you minimum wage. 2 commissions per day, and limit yourself to 3 hours per commission and voila, you'll be rolling in dollar.
Big 5 dimensions are incredibly autistic. Only reason it's "scientific" is because it got committed to hard enough to find correlations imo. You could probably pick any 5 words to describe someone and find correlations eventually. Says a lot about the researchers that made it as to which words they picked. Conscientiousness? Openness (to the type of experiences we think are important :D)? These are the fundamental dimensions to the human experience? What a bunch of redditors. Still, once it's been committed to it's been committed to, so it's better than nothing.
>your type INTP >how often do you feel like pic related Often enough. >why do you think that happens Childhood acquired skillset developed to better deal with the world and people in it.
Ayden Edwards
It's easy to be "scientific" when you claim as little as possible and errors become much less noticeable if you aren't using binary dichotomies like MBTI tests. Officially Big 5 doesn't have types and it says nothing more than your answers, almost verbatim.