Does make-up really make that much of a difference?

I am a virgin and have never seen a girl in the morning without it so I just assumed how I see them outside in public is how they naturally are.
Also, how many girls actually wear it?

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you think this is a large difference? you're gonna commit suicide if you ever have sex and see what that woman looks like the day after.

Women are so disgusting that our bodies have to shut down our capacity to think to make us tolerate them.

How is this even remotely fitness related you utter imbecile

What do you think?

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Not only you're a faggot who is spamming fitness board with bullshit but you're also an underage faggot who never had a job. Work in a place with females like some sort of store and you will see them in both forms (with and without makeup) on different days. Majority of females is so lazy that they don't even shower every day and will come to work with greasy hair.

Left is more attractive.

I really don't see that much of a difference. I can tell what is makeup, you shouldn be surprised.
Makeup doesn't change the shape of the face, it just adds a layer of paint to it.
Like claiming you couldn't recognize a houses structures just because it got a new paintjob, like grow up and learn to use your eyes.

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>4/10 girl
>frauds herself to a 7/10 with make-up, high-waist jeans, fake eye-lashes, nails, push up bras etc.
>now demands a tall 7+/10 ripped boyfriend who is completely natural
How do you cope with this?

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It can make a night and day difference. I dated a girl that never wore makeup and she was very beautiful and didn't really need it, if a woman has lighter features (blonde/red hair) it makes a big difference to just wear light mascara

Don’t cope it doesn’t matter. ~60% of men have 0 discipline and are severely either fat skinny or skinny fat. Top 40% are barely presentable. To get in to top 20% is easy.

i think girls are pretty

Just wait until you find out how good they smell

>lift weights
>healthy diet
>skin-care
>groom
>haircut
>face still ugly due to poor bone-structure and eyes
And so I lose again...

A lot of them don't have visible eyebrows without makeup. Like in the OP picture.

Dude stop listening to this gay shit if you get lean to like ~12% bf none of this retard looksism shit matters. Ask your self this have you ever seen a hot girl with an ugly guy before. Awnser is yes it happens all the time just stop being a sperg and talk to women it’s just a numbers game. Better looks = less dice rolls required.

Something i never realized is that any "hobby" girls are into, whether it be baking, makeup, raising kids, dancing, etc., they do NOT possess the masculine autism, obsession, and neuroticism energy that we have.
Men are better at baking (REAL baking. Like French pastry. NOT special K bars or cookies, brownies, or any of that horse shit that doesn't require weighing of ingredients or actual precision or creativity)

Men are better at makeup. Look at all the world class makeup artists and how disproportionately dominated by men (I hate to even call gay men true men, but i'll concede on this point).

Spend 20 hours in the most manic, fight or flight delusional state of your life to learn all the tricks to applying natural makeup to yourself, and you'll instantly have an asset that'll pay dividends for the rest of your life.

EVEN if you choose not to apply the makeup to yourself in public, you'll INSTANTLY know how to spot a girl's true features, through recognizing her poorly applied makeup and what she was TRYING to accomplish.

It also is useful because it's a super easy conversation topic. Just feign any real knowledge of it (so that you can secretly guide the conversation to buzzword topics that you know they should know about)

TAKE THE MALE NATURAL MAKEUP PILL

Tldr your gay

This is more if eyebrows make a difference

I have a slightly recessed chin and a weak jaw which makes me look like a underdeveloped child. I am at ~14% bodyfat and my face is decently lean already.
Also, my eyes look tired and soulless no matter what I do and they are green.

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>my eyes look tired and soulless no matter what I do
Can you explain or show a pic of what you mean? Do you have lots of upper eyelid show and tend to have poor eyelid posture (drooping eyelid over more than 2mm of your upper pupil?)
If it's tiredness due to under eye bags or darkened skin, then once again, take the male makeup pull as well as adopting a skincare regime

>no matter what I do and they are green.
also why are you trying to act like green eyes are somehow equivalently bad as a recessed chin and weak jaw? try having black hapa eyes

I'm not into girls with make-up, easy. They have to go without it to be attractive (I also don't wear make-up, I do shave though, they are permitted to shave).

soul vs soulless

>I'm not into girls with make-up, easy.
do you hold with the same disdain the following two:

1) west coast styles of makeup, (Trendy stupid fake look. Kylie Jenner nigger lips and caked on foundation, etc.)

2) east coast styles of makeup, (More natural focused, subtly flattering positive attributes.)

while theyre both dogshit for the fact they both distort the face, i would much, much rather side with 2 than 1

the one on left is built to blend in with nature's hues. Look at the beautiful wood siding and the olive greens, hinting at the foliage's similar yellow earthy tones

The one on the right is a direct insult to nature. A travesty. It looks closer to McDonald's revamped store locations than any color scheme you could find in nature