Why did valve nerf the ambassador? And how viable is it these days?

Why did valve nerf the ambassador? And how viable is it these days?

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It was basically a straight upgrade to the revolver. The damage penalty was incredibly minimal due to rounding errors making it closer to 10%. And shooting retards in the head is pretty easy in a game full of children.
Should have brought back it's bullet penetration or at least given it to the enforcer.

Diamondback but worse, Really no reason to use unless you want to show of your headshot skillz but then just play sniper.

Really this weapon has zero purpose. It just exists. Thanks valve

amby spies were basically better snipers in most cases due to your mobility AND range. you werent going to 1 shot any classes but you severely weakened em for a follow up shot or stray rocket. its still used as a better stock, but higher skilled spies use this over the diamondback from what i've seen

>Straight upgrade
Lol no. Aiming headshots is difficult, aiming headshots without scope is 10x difficult.
The ability to headshot was traded for a damage penalty and firing penalty and you can't hold fire it either. It loses accuracy.

It's a weapon that rewards skill which is a perfect sidegrade.

nerfing it was justified, the problem is just that they went too far. All they need to do is extend the damage fall off range and it would be fine

It really isn't. It's even easier when you're behind everyone. And even better when you know if you'll kill some retard in one shot below 102

>give sneaky backstabbing guy a good ranged weapon
I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. Stop. Muddling. Roles.
It should only crit vs stationary enemies

Give spy a revolver that slows the mobility of classes on leg shot.

Give spy a revolver that shoots silently and puts the spawning wallhack effect on enemies for your team to see

>it's even easier when you're behind everyone
Everything is easier when you're behind the enemy. Don't know what this has to do with the gun

>And even better when you know if you'll kill some retard in one shot below 102
That is what Spy is supposed to do. Pick off weakened enemies. Spy isn't a melee class restricted to backstabs only.

Can be a bit situational I guess, good when you actually plan to kill someone and not just pick off damaged enemies or take panicked shots at someone chasing you.
Uses less shots and time to kill than revolver, headshotting pyros from outside their flamethrower range is nice, despite complaints it's still a longer range weapon than the stock revolver.

>Lol no. Aiming headshots is difficult, aiming headshots without scope is 10x difficult.
And that's why we use aimbots.

it didnt have falloff before the nerf since it critted and combined with cloak+health view made it better than sniper in most cases. if you tried it with soldier the rockets are audible before it lands on an enemy initially unaware of you.
demos have to arc their nades and have a timer set on em

>it didnt have falloff before the nerf since it critted and combined with cloak+health
Spy has the lowest health in the game and unlocks that reduce it even further, Has the lowest firepower out of all other classes(yes even medic), Does not have enough speed to dodge enemy attacks. Has to be in the most dangerous situations to be even effective, Spy needs cloak to be even playable.

>made it better than sniper in most cases
Lol wut. An uncharged head shot from sniper can kill 5 out 9 classes instantly. A headshot from ambassador never kills the enemy unless they're already wounded and even if the enemy does get hit, they will immediately take cover or run towards a health pack

>if you tried it with soldier the rockets are audible before it lands on an enemy initially unaware of you.
Soldier rockets travel fast enough that even if the enemy realizes it, they will not be able to dodge it.
If a Soldier manages to attack from behind the enemy, He will deal more damage and get more kills, really shows how shit Spy is.

>demos have to arc their nades and have a timer set on em
Oh but demos has stickies thank god for two primaries. Also are you seriously comparing arc to aiming headshots?

It was nerfed because letting Spy headshot was the stupidest design decision in this game.
>sniper can headshot but has no mobility whatsoever, forced to have tunnel vision, and is forced to play an animation to show everyone when he can headshot you
>spy has mobility, free damage resistance on demand, can blink in and out of existence to effortlessly reach or disengage any position on the map, and can hide what weapon he actively has pointed at you, but he should also be able to headshot because ???
Spyfags that want this gun unnerfed just want a Sniper with none of the downsides

AHEM

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Because every weapon that the completely immobile sitting duck sniper fears gets a nerf.

Health VIEW you dumbass. Being able to see which enemies are below the 102 kill point is huge.

It's still Spy's best revolver even after the nerf. Spyfags are retarded babies.

>NOOOO I WANNA HECKIN BE ABLE TO KILL PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE MAP EVEN THOUGH MY CLASS ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
Spy is meant to be a more involved and close up to others and amby broke that rule
>But muh diamondback
The reason the diamondback shouldnt be nerfed is because it forces you to do things that are more involved and close to other people (backstabbing and sapping)

no, that's the enforcer

Better question, why did valve kill the caber? It does 3 more damage than the backscratcher now, for one hit.

If Spy had a loadout that gave him more health you could play him as a mobilty midrange sniper but otherwise he's too frail and it takes too long to pull out the dead ringer.
After the nerfs it wasn't worth playing battle spy, revolver loadouts is now meaning less.

I mean what I said, Just because I didn't write view in green text doesn't mean I was talking about health. I was talking about Spy in general.

Health view+Cloak isn't that HUGE thing you make it out to be.

People justifying ambassador nerf have negative iq. Nobody bitched about the ambassador before it was nerfed

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