Why can't indie devs really get into using any old engine except for Doom (GZDoom)?
Retro Shooter Thread
Benjamin Butler
Mason Garcia
Because old engines suck and are very limiting. Doing great things with them is very difficult and time consuming and often required a lot of sacrifice. Besides, why dedicated a huge amount of time to a far more difficult to use and far older engine when you can use far easier and newer things that will look far better for far less effort?
Sebastian Cox
Old engines have shit tools and netcode, but new engines look like blurry messes. I wish there was a third alternative.
Kevin Long
New engine's don't look like that inherently. It's just the people using the engine adding a ton of the options because they think more options enabled means a better looking game.
Jayden Murphy
If you can make games on Source like Hunt Down the Freeman, why is no one making games on Goldsrc?
Easton Garcia
Nah, new engines have those options enabled by default. You need to put in a lot of effort to make the game look like it could run on a 3dfx Voodoo. New engines also do tons of buffering to make their FPS numbers look better, but that adds latency which isn't great for fast-paced shooters.
Jose Johnson
Fpbp
Nathaniel Gonzalez
>play a game that's trying to look like it's from 1998
>GPU usage 100%
Eli Robinson
It's the most memorable and easy engine to use
Nobody worked with Build besides the Ion maiden guys, Quake is the same deal
And very few people have the skill and technical ability to make their own unique engine
Bentley Carter
Project Awol is on Build
Doombringer runs on some Quake 3 offshoot
Hudson Morris
>Look far better
Generic unreal engine fps DOES NOT look better than even the 25 year old Quake engine
Luke Mitchell
There are Goldsrc games, they are just less known.
Eli Hernandez
Easton Martin
Most of the old engines that were open-sourced were released under GPL and are no longer available commercially so to legally use them they'd have to provide the full source code for the finished game as well.
Source ports do not have this restriction, this is why you see commercial games on GZDoom and forks of Eduke or Darkplaces in Wrath's case.
Nathan Wood
Is this part of Arcane Dimensions? I still need to download that
Jackson Phillips
>to legally use them they'd have to provide the full source code for the finished game as well
And this is a downside?
Matthew Bennett
Yes
Cameron Ramirez
Quake 2 was a good game and objectively better than Daikatana, Romero is an overglorified hack.
Andrew Martinez
New Ultrakill update in just 3 days.
Gabriel Williams
nah, Daikatana isn't great but it's more interesting and fun than Quake II
All Quake II has going for it is multiplayer and mods
Dylan Lopez
rude
Mason Morgan
>broken buggy pile of shit with permanently cancer ai partners and dogshit enemies +terrible weapons
>better than quake 2
Got Romero's dick so far down your throat than he really must have made you his bitch
Nicholas Jenkins
I hope this guy never lets his horrible fanbase influence his game in any way.
Jayden Brooks
BASED DEV
Seriously though it's not bad at all people need to learn to get used to it
Adam Cooper
I need names. I love GoldSrc
Jordan Stewart
I only use it to punch my own shotgun shells. Actually firing the gun for its own sake does seem pointless most of the time.