I played through the MCC, finished halo 4 last night. It aint that bad. Anyway, the didact hates humanity, because super advanced civilizations cant comunicate, so he bombs humans back to the stone age. Then he cant handle the flood, so he composed humanity to become prometheans, and that still wasnt enough for the flood, so they create halo rings to kill everything alive except for the noahs ark project (dont understand how that got deployed) and they hide the fucking flood INSIDE the rings?? Its all so very convoluted, coming from halo 3
Also, is the gravemind one single entity that is reconstructed everytime the little flood goombas gather enough of the dead?
And why did guilty spark speak as if humans had fired the rings before? It was the forerunners.
Mass effect did the ancient civilizations plot much better
Gravemind was basically, well, a mind that eventually formed out of flood if it reached enough complexity to develop sentience.
Flood was NOT supposed to be hidden on the rings, it was just The Librarian's autism, she was meant to store the blueprint for every species but NOT the Flood, but still, she decided to keep the Flood just for funs and giggles.
343 refered to Chief as a "forerunner", he meant the species that handled the Mantle of Responsibility and humans were the designated shitting ruling species at that point.
David Ross
>You ARE forerunner t. 343 Guilty Spark to Master Chief 343 Industries changed the lore and i will never forgive them
Andrew Smith
>343 refered to Chief as a "forerunner", he meant the species that handled the Mantle of Responsibility and humans were the designated shitting ruling species at that point.
You mean that it was actualy humanity who built halo? Or that when spark and chief met, spark saw humans as the ones bearing the mantle, and therefore being forerunners?
Regarding the gravemind, i agree with you but what i meant was if it was always the same entity that comes back, its always the same gravemind coming back and back again, everytime
Gavin Diaz
I thought they kept the flood around to try and study them and keep looking for a biological cure.
I don't think they were confident that the rings would fully destroy the flood.
Elijah Gomez
everything done by 343 is not canon
Sebastian Rodriguez
>You mean that it was actualy humanity who built halo? When spark said that he meant humans were the next form of intelligent life to rise after the firing of the rings. He didn't mean they were explicitly forerunners themselves
Adam Myers
It was Bungie who "change" it. In reality they were never decided, even when writing Halo 3, but the writers of the terminals "won" by making humanity a different species. 343 only continued down that track set by Bungie.
Jonathan Reyes
So if being forerunners means that your race is the most advanced (mantle and all) , what race is the didact, then?
Charles Foster
We don't really know what was their name, universal translator refers to them as, well, the forerunners. But "forerunner" is basically a moniker of the species that "handles the mantle of responsibility" for all sentient life in the universe.
Caleb Turner
lorefag here >Didact hates humanity He lost all his children in his ancient war against humanity. He was assmad about it but not outright genocidal, so humanity was devolved into several subspecies and dropped off on their (probable) homeworld. >composes At this point Didact has been rendered insane by the Gravemind who captures him but does not infect him, planning that the Didact's insanity will drive more conflict into the ranks of the Forerunners, which it does. The Didact's plan for fighting the Flood was creating thousands of Shield Worlds and fight them with armies of robots, some of these robots led by Forerunners and humans that have been composed. This was rejected in favor of building the Halo rings which straight up sterilize organic matter due to Forerunner politics. >Halo rings Competing project vs the Didact's Shield Worlds, Halo rings won. Many Shield Worlds were still built but basically zero Forerunners seem to have actually made it to them. >Ark There were two, for the two generations of Halo rings. 12 big rings, could fire beams across the entire galaxy for very selective sterilization. 11 of them were destroyed by the Flood and one remains. 6 smaller rings, with a wide-area sterilization effect. Indiscriminate, and if fired together the effect supercombines and sterilizes the entire galaxy. Greater Ark where the big rings were made was destroyed by the Flood. Lesser Ark where the smaller rings were made was in Halo 3 and still exists. >Flood inside rings The Forerunners knew the Flood was extragalactic, and thus hoped that they would be able to discover a cure one day. The Monitors were supposed to keep the Flood in check, but as you've seen the Monitors went all a bit crazy. >gravemind It's a single entity. Even when you destroy the Flood the knowledge and personality of the combined Flood is not destroyed. If a new Gravemind is built one day, it will access all of that. >Guilty Spark He thought Chief was the Didact.
Luke Ross
The Gravemind is one entity, and many. It's an eldritch god that exists in opposition to the concept of individuality, and at some indistinguishable point it goes from being a simple physical collection of minds mushed together with aids and duct tape to something more eternal and beyond the physical body it inhabits Think of it like a bunch of PS3s daisychained together into a shitty supercomputer, then being used as a remote terminal for another actual supercomputer
Ethan Flores
Threadly reminder to read the forerunner trilogy The forerunner stuff in Halo 4 was an attempt by 343's toddler writers to incorporate a work of cosmic irony kino with dune-tier density into a 7 hour lowest common denominator console FPS campaign, which resulted in a story that was not only intensely confusing and ridiculous to anyone who hadn't read it, but did a great disservice to the best story to come out of this franchise
While 343 deserves a lot of flak the decision to have Greg Bear write the mythic background of the franchise was brilliant. The series will never peak higher than the Forerunner Trilogy.
Tyler Perry
I'm not even sure if that was 343, Cryptum came out like a few months after Reach
Hunter Rivera
It must have been, because Bungie outright despised the expanded universe novels and ignored them whenever they could.
Bentley Young
>why is the story for a game that doesn't need a story that was built without a plan as games kept making money so they kept making the games so convoluted are you fucking retarded OP it's pretty obvious they were just making it up as they went along like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings or Lost
Bungie didn't hate the books, they just recognized that they shouldn't be necessary to enjoy the games, but rather something for fans to get more enjoyment from engaging with after playing the games
Jacob Foster
>they were just making it up as they went along like Lord of the Rings
Reminder that H3 terminals were written by the fucking Bungie forum moderator, Frank O'Connor, currently one of the heads of 343. H3 terminals are shit, Reach is shit, and anything related to 343 Industries is worse than shit.
Robert Martin
t. Offensive Bias
Joseph Torres
>The publisher was encouraged by the book's critical and financial success and, therefore, requested a sequel. As Tolkien's work progressed on its successor, The Lord of the Rings, he made retrospective accommodations for it in The Hobbit. These few but significant changes were integrated into the second edition. Further editions followed with minor emendations, including those reflecting Tolkien's changing concept of the world into which Bilbo stumbled. >The Return of the King was especially delayed as Tolkien revised the ending and prepared appendices (some of which had to be left out because of space constraints).
