The Witness

>So what was it all about?
"Don't be too obsessed with finding meaning where there isn't any."
Pretty much a modern version of Takeshi's Challenge's "Don't take video games so serious".

So, in other words, a god-tier shitpost that incentivizes you to do exactly what it is criticizing?

yes
Now play The Looker for maximum Blow-Butthurt.

I hate this because I also felt that was the message, but what the fuck where they thinking?
>puzzle game
>point is to thoroughly explore every nook and cranny
>perspective puzzles and central theme puzzles being 'there could be a puzzle literally anywhere and you need to always look carefully'
>thematic and story theme is then 'don't be obsessed with finding meaning, just relax bro its a game lol'
Fuck off with that nonsense, worst kind of game to use to express that message.

The Talos Principle shits all over The Witness in every single way. Story, actual world lore, graphics, sound design, puzzles, voice acting, and so on. The WItness is pure pretentious wankery while The Talos Principle actually delves into some real philosophy.

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> Many felt pretentious
"solving the puzzle is the reward" = pretentious

>Stray
Is Stray a puzzle game like that? I played for an hour and decided to stop and let my 8 year old nephew play it for me when he visits. But if the puzzles get really complicated then the little dimwit won't be able to play it

It's not that anything turned me off, it's that nothing hooked me. I walked out of some tunnel into an overgrown ruin, solve some puzzles, find a picnic blanket and some fancy pillows that make me thing the ruins aren't actually ruins but built to look like that, solve some more puzzles, hear an Einstein quote that doesn't seem to connect to what I'm doing, turn on a random laser, start wandering and find a bunch of puzzles I can't solve yet. What's the hook? What am I supposed to be doing? Turning on lasers because...? And the more I wander at random the more I start to think that the whole island feels like a corporate retreat designed for team-building exercises. That would explain the fake ruins, the random semi-motivational quotes from famous people, the obviously-modern puzzle pads spread around the island in an obviously designed manner, and the fact that I find puzzles I can't solve yet - that's where the rest of your group comes in to provide their own theories to see if you can't solve it together. It just feels sterile and corporate, rather than comfy and relaxing

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>Graphics
Ehh... I just googled it and the pics look like some Steam early access asset flip to be honest. However I am intriguied so I'll give it a shot.

>Talos Principle
That one is actually on my list

Forgot to mention the puzzles are actually enjoyable too, and amazingly, constructed in ways that make fucking sense.
>The Witness: 'hey we scattered puzzles all over this fucking island some make sense some don't gotta go find the tutorials for those puzzles first we're an exploration game after all, just with nothing to actually explore or find because all the puzzle areas are clearly labeled and nothing besides bonuses are hidden'
>Talos Principle: 'Here is a puzzle. You have everything you need to solve this puzzle. When you solve this puzzle, you will understand a new way of using this item, that will be required for later puzzles. You cannot reach a puzzle you are not equipped to solve, for you cannot have reached this point otherwise. No tricks. It's all up to you.'

Talos Principle is very boring visually, has really repetitive puzzles and has a gay ass story and writing. It even needs to give you a few dumb responses when talking so the AI you're talking to can call you stupid and talk about superficial AI theory. It's really overrated and has nothing on either Outer Wilds or the Witness

That's true, I forgot about that. I also forgot to mention that the extra star puzzles are REALLY engaging and fun as well. Some of the things where you have to bring elements from outside the "level" to solve them is some 10/10 "think outside the box" design.

Imagine being a person who unironically praises The Witness while trying to claim that The Talos Principle has "repetitive puzzles" and "a gay ass story and writing". Is that you, Jonathan Blow?

Yeah... it's pretty much all like that, although there is one special keypoint mechanic you probaly haven't found yet. I'd say go up to the mountain where the lasers are pointing and try solving the one isolated puzzle panel you find on its edge.

I don't like the Witness that much, and certainly don't care about the story. But you'd have to be blind to think the borrowed asset looking crap that is Talos Principle looks visually better than the handcrafted visuals of the Witness. And also the Witness doesn't waste my time with a shitty story like Talos does

Story is 2deep4me, but the gameplay was great. Explore it at your own pace and everything. Almost like Outer WIlds

Elden Ring is like OW? What about the fighting and shit? I thought it's just a souls game...

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I don't know, I'm already forgetting I even have it installed. I might just take a short tour for some screenshots and then uninstall it. It's obviously inspired by Myst, and Myst is one of my favorite games, but where Myst makes me curious and intrigued, The Witness fills me with the same feeling I have when I play Sodoku on my phone while waiting for the buss: it's something to fill the void