THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM

>The most celebrated, influential and renowned Western RPG ever made

>Any Forums does even consider it to be an RPG

Explain yourselves.

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they're nitpicky retards who actively ignore the fact that 99% of the other games in the RPG genre is the same shit or worse, except they don't come with extensive mod support to fix the glaring issues like Skyrim does

RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality, then the game tailors your experience based on the character you created. For example, you make a neutral evil thief character, and that gives you unique options in certain quests, because you're a cunt thief you can backstab and fuck a lot of people over for your own benefit. But you will also miss out on certain content like the Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild because it doesn't make sense for someone who specializes in burglary and stealth to join those guilds. Your dialogue options will be different compared to something like a lawful good character, and the main quest of the story will play out differently, there will be some reason to do it for your own gain rather than muh gotta save da world.
Skyrim doesn't give you any of this, you are the legendary dragonborn who will save the world from Alduin no matter what, you can become head of every guild even if you don't have the skills necessary to qualify, your only dialogue options are asking questions and making minor choices like whether you want Camilla Valerius to fuck Sven, Faendal, or yourself, you can either the Stormcloaks or Imperials regardless of what race you are and what your character has done in the past. What's that? You're a high elf mage who mercilessly slaughtered the entire village of Riverwood for no reason? No problem bro, past is past, welcome to the Stormcloaks.
Skyrim is an open world action game more so than it is an RPG.

It's an RPG, but a very streamlined one, to the point the roleplaying is becoming almost removed from the game mechanic and up to the player.
So while you can roleplay in skyrim, the game often fails to support it in a more glaring way than it's predecessors.
It's still an RPG, but it's much less of an RPG than what it should have been.

doesn't*

Yes if you play the role as your character as the Dragonborn etc.

It doesn't have as IN-DEPTH deep roleplaying as some games do but it passes as an action/adventure/RPG.

This is a really good take.

So is it an RPG or no? Give me a yes or no answer.

>dismiss 90% of rpgs

nice

Dovahkiin turns 11 this year. Feel old yet? By the time the next elder scrolls releases he will probably have finished high school.

No role playing
Not an rpg
Cool amusement park though

if not for radiant quests I would actually consider skyrim to be a fairly good game

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>flin
What a whore

You don't have to make any meaningful decisions. Quests don't even allow you to fail, the game constantly sucks your dick the moment you enter Whiterun and the dragonporn is a natural at anything he does. In previous Elder Scrolls you had to decide on what type of character you want to play. Are you good at magic or a fighter or thief? You couldn't switch your star sign randomly, in Daggerfall you even got neat little backstories. Yes this is not normie friendly, but this is how an RPG works.

Too plain to be a proper RPG, it's more of an action adventure game with RPG elements

Name your favorite RPGs.

I think when other genres and story elements take precedent over the story and the character the game forced YOU (the player) to come up with it stops being a "role playing" game and becomes a game in whatever genre it more accurately represents with systems akin to those in tabletop roleplaying games.

For example:
I play the incredibly long and bad introduction to skyrim. I make a green nigga and I decide his story is that he's an illiterate mongoloid with minimal stats in everything except magic (loosely inspired by orks in warhammer). I then play the game and realize that MY ROLE, THE ROLE I DECIDED FOR MY CHARACTER, is not the TRUE story. The game actively wants you (the player) to be DRAGONBORN ruler of such and such powerful being from god-knows-where or whatever the fuck, BUT I (THE FUCKING PLAYER) DECIDED THAT I WANT TO PLAY AS AN UNINTELLIGENT NEARLY MUTE GREEN NIGGA WITH MAGIC POWERS.
See the issue? My dunce of a man is not special or the chosen one or anything of the sort, he's a green retard. The game wont let my character exist the way I want him to.

While the systems in place are akin to tabletops of olden days, the way in which your characters exist in the world are completely different and the way the game plays is mediocre in comparison to your imagination and the freedom of choice in an actual tabletop rpg.
Normally this would be fine in an RPG where you don't get to make your own character and is only a game to serve the purpose of a specific story the developers wanted to tell with the specific game mechanics the developers wanted to use (like every fucking JRPG ever), BUT IN CRPGS AND GAMES INFLUENCED BY THEM ALL OF THAT IS THROWN DOWN THE DRAIN, they give you this illusion of choice when it's never actually giving you any real fucking options.
You never get to be the green magic nigga who is mentally retarded and has fun adventures because they're too busy forcing you into a role with the promise of creative freedom.
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Classic: Realms of Arkania trilogy
New: The Pathfinders and Kingdom Come Deliverance were excellent

>New: The Pathfinders and Kingdom Come Deliverance were excellent
nta but lol

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>tranime
Stick to Skyrim, tranny.

Yikes. Opinion safely and immediately discarded.

enjoy your braindead normalfaggot power fantasies for weak men raised by single mothers

The only way to roleplay in Skyrim is to deliberately avoid quests with the foreknowledge that they'll contradict your character's class or alignment

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AT LEAST JRPGS LET ME BE THE CHARACTER THEY CHOSE FOR ME TO PLAY. In games like skyrim and fallout 3/NV/4 you will always be playing THEIR set up for this world. You can't just choose a place to exist from and make your own character, you are the man/woman that got shot in the head and survived, you are the Dragonborn, you are the vault dweller who is missing a relative. IF I WANTED A RAILROAD I WOULD JUST FUCKING PLAY ALL OF MY FAVORITE JRPGS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE WELL DEFINED GOOD AND FUN ROLES FOR ME TO ACTUALLY FUCKING ROLE PLAY AS.
I'm not gonna sit here and let other people say "it's an rpg because it has rpg elements" cause that just isn't the fucking case, by this definition Bloons Tower Defense 6 (damn good game) is a role playing game. It isn't.
Skyrim at best is an open world rpg-like quest simulator. Until someone makes a game that throws you into a world after letting you decide where you came from and who you are (AND ACTUALLY FUCKING ADHERES TO THIS 100%) in a world like Skyrim's or Fallout's or whatever the fuck shitty game you faggots play then I won't let you call them accurate to the core ideas of a ROLEPLAYING GAME.
It's as simple as that.
Don't give me the idea of agency if you want me to be the mary sue. I don't mind not being a character I created but if that's how it's gonna be don't fucking give me the option whatsoever.
>but you can just go wherever you want
YOU CAN DO THIS IN ANY FUCKING VIDEO GAME, YOU CAN JUST PLAY GTA
YOU CAN JUST PLAY FUCKING ANYTHING ELSE AND HAVE MORE FUN THAN SKYRIM

anyways this is probably the end of my rant since I know you faggots don't actually care or like anything beyond putting coomer mods into the game or modding it into being dark souls.

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Why? They're are actual RPG's.
>Skyrim
>Not the textbook definition of normie power fantasy

I "bought" this game just for Khajiit and Argonian tits

So just do that? But if players want to do all the quests then they can do that as well. Freedom is what RPGs are all about. Freedom to go wherever and do whatever.

It would be a pretty good game if it didn't have 1000 bugs and stupid fuck ups to slowly ruin your experience.
Looting chests and come across a strange item? welp its stuck in your inventory til you complete that quest, you also havent even started the quest yet and have no idea where you go to start it. Good luck and dont mind now having 5 pounds less of item burden. Now have that happen 6 times.

>no age of decadence, no expeditions, no underrail, no knights of the chalice, no grimwah, no grimrock
you are legit just as bad as the people glorifying skyrim

The expedition games and age of decadence are good RPG's for sure, just not my favourite.

dude I dont give a shit about skyrim, I just accept it for what it is.

>just not my favourite
yeah because they aren't moronic power trip simulators

Have you played Skyrim recently? I played the anniversary edition recently and encountered zero bugs. There's also the unofficial patch available to further iron everything out.

>RPG means you create a character with a certain backstory and personality, then the game tailors your experience based on the character you created.
It doesn't, you are just trying to merge the definition from tabletop rpg and computer rpg.

I legit installed the remaster on switch last weekend and it's just as buggy as the day it came out. at least 5 glitches within the first 15 minutes.

>just not my favourite
Cause you're clueless about good RPGs.

Yea I've never played the Switch version. Atleast the home consoles (PS4/Xbox) also got the unofficial patch through mod support so there's that.