Quality aside, is it really as influential on gaming as a whole as people claim?

Quality aside, is it really as influential on gaming as a whole as people claim?

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influential sure but only because it's pushing 30 years old now

influential back then does not translate to still good today

Yes. Anyone who was even ALIVE back then can confirm that.

>influential back then does not translate to still good today
Correct, but OoT is definitely still a great game as well. It feels way more "modern" than some would assume, simply because it coined and nailed so many basics down on the first try.

In general, I dare to say that a majority of the late-90s' to mid-00s' acclaimed classics still hold up and provide enjoyable, unique experiences to this day.

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No. Anyone who claims otherwise has no idea what goes on behind the scenes at big developers (these retards literally think developers knowing what Z-targeting is was a bigger deal than say, Unreal Engine), and is also simply wrong on a basic statistical survey level (how many games are direct clones of OoT? Uh, fucking none! Cause it’s a total dead end of game design!).

Tomb Raider was objectively more influential even in the dumb, limited sense they mean.

Set the standard for 3D Action Adventure games

>compares OoT to Tomb Raider
snoy nigger hands typed this

Some people take its influence as far as to say you wouldn't have Dark Souls without OoT because of the lock on system. OoT worshippers are retarded.

what? tomb raider came out on saturn first and was then ported on playstation.

This is one of those “Any Forumstard doesn’t know what words mean” moments you see on this board a lot— how on earth did OoT set some standard when none of the most popular 3D non-Zelda games that came out between its own release and, say, 2006 play anything like it? OoT’s kin has and always will be bombs like Starfox Adventures, Okami, Kameo, Darksiders, etc.

It’s also so funny how there’s this in reality non-existent historical popularity to OoT assumed here, Resident Evil for example has always been more popular and better selling than 3D Zelda.

Dark Souls was heavily impacted by OOT, Miyazaki says this explaining that OOT became "a sort of blueprint" for these kinds of games.

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It doesn't though, Hyrule's water comes from Zora's Fountain while all the water under King Zora flows into the domain
It would be more accurate to say all of Hyrule's water passes under Jabu-Jabu's ass and balls

Yes, they are literally that dumb. They also never explain why debuting 3D lock-on (a bad handholding bandaid mechanic) was a great development.

It’s the greatest game ever made and has influenced thousands.

It was the first to do many things, which means many people experienced them here first. Things like day/night cycles and passage of time having a meaningful impact.

But when you look at shit like GTA3 which came out immediately afterwards, you realize that Ocarina just kinda beat them to market, and that OoT is mostly influential to subsequent Zelda games. It had a huge impact on people's lives, but it's kinda hard to argue that it was even as impactful as Mario 64, or Mario Kart 64.

>It had a huge impact on people's lives

But this is a myth. Do you even know how few people statistically speaking have actually played OoT, period, much less did when it released?

You’re just repeating IGN-level fake history.

where did he say that? in all interviews ive read he talks about combining player driven narrative of king's field with ueda style minimalism. also sony wanted demon's souls to cash in on the success of oblivion, they tasked fromsoft to make elders scrolls oblivion but ps3 exclusive. DeS was even gonna have 1st/3rd person toggle but it was dropped in favor of making a 3rd person action game with traces of first person still existing when you use a bow.

where does OoT come into this?

One of the funniest OoTard beliefs is that “inventing” hacks like Z targeting is something developers would have found difficult in the late 90s. It’s a fucking dev tool. This is just not a technical question consuming the minds of any cutting edge studio at that time.

>tomb raider
>came out after mario 64
>still had dogshit controls
Nah you're just s snoy

Nice headcanon, manchild

This. Pokemon was also never popular, and no one ever cared about mario. All shit nintendies invented.

No, and neither is BotW. The reason: to make a game like that you need talent, you need to give a damn, you have to understand videogames and have the drive to push the medium forward . Few game devs alive have what it takes and most work at nintendo.

This to be honest. It's the reason there are so many games inspired by zelda but very few that go full zelda with all of its elements

>Ueda style minimalism
Has he ever made a game that had this? I doubt it

>3D lock-on (a bad handholding bandaid mechanic)
You have to try harder than that

Every Souls games, but it's not just the minimalism, but the art direction and tone of the souls games especially Dark Souls 1. Play Ico and you will get it.

>every souls game
Lol
Lmao
>ICO
Literally zero similarities

Every modern game has a bit of oot or mario 64 dna in them, because both pioonered mechanics or took existing mechanics and made it not janky and shit.
Literally every game ever made for decades now has nintendo semen in them.

That fact makes people insanely butthurt because they have an irrational hatred of nintendo

Play Ico then play Dark Souls and if you don't see the similarities then, to be frank, you're stupid.

This thread is nothing but dumb takes from ignorant savages who want to hate on popular thing.

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>tomb raider came out on saturn first
The ayys played Tomb Raider???

Shitting on gloarious N64 is Any Forums's favorite passtime. They really can't cope even after two and a half decades.

Uh yes?
It's essentially the blueprint for all modern 3D gaming, before OoT there wasn't such a thing as a base concept for action adventure games in 3D, and even other genres like character action, RPG and even shooter have borrowed its DNA in some way.
That said, if anyone wants to play this game in this day and age, do yourselves a favor and just play the 3DS version.

It's influence cannot be overstated. It basically created modern gaming.