I have played Bahamut Lagoon recently, and it made me wonder, what exactly was NTR about the story?
The princess was a childhood friend sure, but over the course of the game 1. It is very clear she doesn't want to be with the army but is held there out of a sense of duty or obligation
2. The main character makes like fucking NO moves on her, in fact a lot of the time other characters basically say "Go do this, go help Yoyo you're the only one who can!"
3. The main character spends a lot of the game getting pushed around by others, and has no initiative towards her
All the while, the person she ends up with shows initiative, makes her comfortable even if the empire itself feels like a dubious place, and doesn't get pushed around by leadership. Sure she leads the MC on a bit, but if he had any kind of initiative at all, she might have actually went for it
you are literally forced to watch her fall for another man
Levi Powell
>Forced to watch Yeah because the character didnt fucking put any moves on her at all. >b-but it could have happened off screen! That would have just make it feel more forced and contrived
Jonathan Cox
Post the "his dragon" screenshot
Hunter Sullivan
the NTR works on a game level and meta-game level
Joseph Williams
Yoyo had already fallen for the general by the point they reunite. Byuu spends his life pining for her, trying to save her, even refusing to sleep with the desert girls after liberating the country because he wanted to stay loyal to her.
Then Yoyo asks you to take her and Papaleos to the church that you promised to get married at, says that his dragon is faster than yours, then makes you wait outside while they go in without you.
It is absolutely NTR because they had a relationship in place before Yoyo got stockholm syndrome. While I generally agree that weak herbivore men deserve to get cucked, but its not like Byuu didn't make the moves on her at all, by the time they reunite she had already fallen for another man.
Asher Wright
NTR is about self inserting as the pathetic loser who can't take initiative in order to remind you of when you were exactly that in highschool (and you still are now except you don't know any girls).
Chase Long
The whole story feels forced and very weird when you think about it
Xavier Myers
I do not believe there are people that take ntr seriously the writing is always bad
Owen Campbell
>Byuu spends his life pining for her, trying to save her Yes, but the fact of the matter is, he was too late. There was a point in his life where that wasn't the case. Even in the flashback she explicitly says "blah blah blah church AND IF I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT YOU" they were in no official relationship. His chance to really prove something and to make his move was before this point and stockholm syndrome bullshit, while they were fucking around as "friends" not after They had a friendship, and a potential blooming romance, but such a thing did not bare fruit. A lot of his crew mates have to go tell Byuu "go after her! Be by her side!" There are very few, if any instances where Byuu takes the initiative himself at these points. In fact, when she is saved from the empire the Fahrenheit crew honestly does not reflect well on Byuu himself.
Maletite pushes him around, his squad is a bunch of rowdy gungho dudes, which are also perverts, Maletite also pines for her which he was probably more concerned about, and she is even slapped around by that woman whose name I forgot, and while he stays faithful to Yoyo after the desert liberation, how the fuck is she supposed to know, unless the divine dragon powers show ALL and tell ALL, and even then, why would she ask at that point?
The church imagery is sloppy, but the entire game is very sloppy in its presentation, there are so many weird scenes. Its a fun ride, and a fun game, but you can't tell me that the story's strength is in how it is presented. The desert liberation was so weird cartoony and random that you could not at all take such an event seriously, as were the events that followed on the ship.
Jason Reed
If he didn't take action, the plot made him not take action so that you, and your self-insert, could get cuckolded, which is what the readers of cuckold porn want. Papaleos does get murdered, but she is still used goods defiled forever.
Jordan Foster
>MC doesn't get a happy ending so its a bad story No, that's exactly why the story is good. Its a doomed romance and while Byuu is a non-character, Yoyo, Papaleos and whatever the emperor's name is, were good characters and their relationship was told well.
Nathan Thompson
>Yoyo, Papaleos and whatever the emperor's name is, were good characters Stop baiting shit was paper thin
Tyler Bailey
I think the story is great, I was talking about how the story itself was framed. The "directing" so to say, was strictly weird. Example, Taito(?) explains some of his war flashbacks with Matelite, why people fight, what they are fighting for, the importance of such matters but even in the dialogue there is such weird tonal whiplash in what felt like a truly serious scene.
Similarly, the events in the desert town felt more comedic and silly, which is fine, but it is hard to know whether you should take such an important upheaval seriously
Daniel Morris
Its an SNES game, you have to fill the dialogue in with your imagination at times but their motivations and character arcs were strong.
Jose White
OK Any Forums, was this NTR (You should be able to solve this)
The protagonist is just a non-character that it's hard to give a shit about him. He's just an emotionless robot.
Jose Wilson
Implied non-virgin
Landon Price
Silent protagonists were some of the largest banes for RPGs in that era honestly. There was never anything gained from silent types with "implied character".
