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ELDEN RING LORE THREAD
Evan Thomas
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Benjamin Watson
>elden ring has no lor-
Nathaniel Cruz
what was up with the soulless demigods? were they killed by the black knives? also what runes did vyke and ofnir have?
Benjamin Jackson
i would say black knives killed them for these reasons
1. bandai site mentions multiple targets that night. though the site may not be canon, there are a lot of assassins spread across the map
2. there is much emphasis on godwyn being the *first* of the demigods to die. not only does that imply others died but why would people say he's the first if the mausoleums were already there?
3. the demigods are explicitly soulless. a unique thing about destined death is destruction of the soul. so it seems very likely they killed them too
Easton Perez
Man... this game died rreally fast...
Was it really just FOTM?
Aiden Taylor
it's not clear that gideon or vyke had great runes. as having two is not a prerequisite to becoming elden lord.
after you get two, enia says she's only ever seen two together once before (which means there is no way both of them had two). enia then says the fingers expect a lot from you, and from gideon and the others whom she sees as your equal
Aaron Torres
My own TAKE on the world of Elden Ring based on what I know.
-The Crucible is the true source of power in this land. Originally it had a chaos form like a living version of T-1000. It is an avatar of raw potential.
-The Crucible knights were ardent supporters and even retain arms, armor, skills from this time.
-During this more ancient time, there were many terrestrial gods, giants, and dragons.
-The Godskins and Black flame developed as human main armament against many of these foes.
-divine towers were erected at specific Leylines. Conduits of Crucible power.
>exacts on chronological order gets wonky here, but ultimately knowing the sequence is supplemental autism and not consequential to current events
-Nokron got too cocky and used magic to accidentally let outer gods know where planet is.
>same thing happened in WoW when night elves drew attention of burning legion by using power of well of eternity.
-outer gods attracted to its power and began landing
Humans interpret this as divine.
>"muh greater will is upset"
>"muh greater will sent the erdtree"
-The Elden Beast (outer god) lands and begins absorbing/drawing off power of the Crucible.
-pops out of central tower of divinity to basically supplant it.
-Elden beast uses power of Crucible to take form of tree.
-tree does not actually grant or create life.
>this is evident by "dead" trees found in calied and altus
-It actually absorbs and draws upon world around it and recycles it.
-the trees are parasites
-the elden beast is the central energy parasite.
-marika granted power of elden ring.
-comes to realize she is a puppet
-orchestrates a grand scheme so convoluted that even an omniscient creature could not stop.
-she failed, but her strike left a crack and opening that could be exploited to dispose the Elden Beast and shake free from the unending stagnation and decay that has befallen the Land Between.
Benjamin Green
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
>Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality,
>The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree.
>Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
> When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
It's all the same tree, and the elden ring has always been a part of it. ever since the ring came down to TLB and created life. Old erdtree incantations are are called crucible incantations. The oldest erdtree incantation is elden stars.
>This is a manifestation of the Erdtree's primal vital energies—an aspect of the primordial crucible, where all life was once blended together.
Another place where life is attributed to the greater will:
[310053040] All that there is came from the One Great.
[310053050] Then came fractures, and births, and souls.
[310053060] But the Greater Will made a mistake.
[310053070] Torment, despair, affliction. Every sin, every curse.
[310053080] Every one, born of the mistake.
[310053090] And so, what was borrowed must be returned.
[310053100] Melt it all away, with the yellow chaos flame.
[310053110] Until all is One again
Here "One Great" is likely referring to "all life blended together", which all living things fractured off from
Ryan Baker
waiting on dlc
they need some kind of randomly generated rouge-like area
Jaxson King
The mistake that pretty much all of Any Forums makes in understanding "lore".
Is that even the lore suffers "unreliable narrator" effect.
Cast the below into action/intent instead.
>It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
A sentient creature landed. Intent = tbd
>Golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life, and houses its vitality
The amber is basically a giant seed. Similar to how scientists think comets containing enzymes and/or microbes may have helped to seed Earth during primordial conditions.
>The Dragonlord whose seat lies at the heart of the storm beyond time is said to have been Elden Lord in the age before the Erdtree
Dragons were most powerful.
>Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
> When the Elden Ring was shattered, these seeds flew from the Erdtree, scattering across the various lands, as if life itself knew that its end has come.
Defense reaction of the tree was to send out more energy draining parasites. Spawn more future tree avatars.
Jaxon Davis
it created life, and is the only peaceful resting place for those that died. it's like heaven in tree form. how is it a parasite?
John Rivera
so why does that scorpion rot god dagger have a wolf pommel?
Matthew Price
I remember people wondering if Commander O'Neil was Malenia's or Radahn's, but I think it's pretty clear that he was Malenia's. His reskin of Commander Niall even has a prosthetic that unfurls like Malenia's, and he's guarding a location clearly linked to Miquella.
Kevin Harris
wtf.... never noticed that.
nothing about that item makes sense though. a piece of an outer god? wtf?
David Brown
Just here to say that you're still an interminable autist
Noah Russell
radahn is a golden order fanatic, so it was clearly him working with miquella to restore godwyn the golden
Oliver Mitchell
You described the golden order in a nutshell.
The "natural order" is that when you die you die.
Charles Ross
without the tree you wander around as a ghost after death. you need the tree to die properly, and return to the origin of all life. that's why they say you return there. you came from there originally as all earthly life did.
Luis Russell
Death and the undead are a regular occurrence in the lands between according to the following item descriptions
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Greatsword patterned after the black steeple of the Helphen, the lampwood which guides the dead of the spirit world.
The lamplight is similar to grace in appearance, only it is said that it can only be seen by those who met their death in battle
Usher of Death, Rosus, who shows the path to the catacombs throughout the Lands Between, is depicted on this ritual axe.
The dead easily lose their way, and have always been in sore need of a guiding hand.
Summons a group of Those Lost in Death. Three skeletons will appear some distance from the caster and attack foes before disappearing.
The dead have long been left to wander; what they need is leadership
The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
The spirits of nobles who, after death, now wander the Lands Between. Surely they were in search of something once - but whatever it was has long been forgotten
Jaxson Collins
>The dead gazed at the skies over the lakes of Limgrave, praying that the dragons' flames would burn them to ash.
Prior to the erdtree and elden beast, the natural "ecosystem" of the land between was for dragon flame to 'purge the weeds' as it were.
There was also Ghostflame existed BEFORE the erdtree.
This is why I say the erdtree is NOT the start of life/creation...contrary to what erdtree zealots say.
>Sorcery of the servants of Death.
>Strike the ground with the staff, triggering an explosion of ghostflame that burns the surrounding area.
>In the time when there was no Erdtree, death was burned in ghostflame. >Deathbirds were the keepers of that fire.
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>The twinbird is said to be the envoy of an outer god, and mother of the Deathbirds.
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Outer gods and humans have been alive in the lands between since before the elden beast and the Crucible.
It did not create life.
Oliver Murphy
It’s a single player game that’s been out for over four months. Most people have beaten it and moved on like with any other single player game.