What exactly was his plan? The city's a mess and there's no fucking civilians even left besides crazies

What exactly was his plan? The city's a mess and there's no fucking civilians even left besides crazies.

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power

ADAM

He had no objective because he wasn't an objectivist.

ADAM was still a potential source of tremendous power and influence, he would've sold raptures secrets to the highest bidder after making himself superjacked.

What fucking power? Rule over ruins? Everyone is killing each other, there's no normalcy, yet somehow the city survives 8 years later?
Is all if Rapture destroyed or are there still parts of Rapture that's normal?

So basically:
>Take over Rapture
>Start getting tons and tons of Adam in containers
>Make city known to the world
>Become a monopoly shipping Adam all over the world
I'd assume this would also make Rapture become fixed and shit if this worked? Or would governments all over start to invade?

You might say trying to save Rapture was a sunk cost.

Power is a powerful drug, user
Look at history or even today. Faggots like Putin are willing to destroy millions of livelihoods just to feel powerful and important

My bet is by the force of Plot Convenience, the city still holds (although we do see sections getting destroyed by water) partly due to BigDaddies doing their programmed shit, and the rest is something like a war zone, where people mostly loots and scavenges. There should be a lot more of corpses around, still.
I suppose Frank's plan is somewhat like the bad ending, with a troupe of splicers under his control and he turneed into some ubermensch

>I'd assume this would also make Rapture become fixed and shit if this worked? Or would governments all over start to invade?
govt would probably invade. I don't think Fontaine had a plan really, he just wanted to be king of shit heap, he was an opportunist who took control of the underworld and saw a chance to rule it all. He was nothing but a petty crook, not a visionary or an idealist - that's kind of the point of his character, a petty crook thrives just as well if not better in Ryan's world.
keep in mind the city was very changed in the end product from what it was supposed to be thanks to FUCKING FOCUS TESTERS.

Rapture was never supposed to be in ruins in the game.

Why does everyone forget there's literally an entire world outside of Rapture lol?

>FUCKING FOCUS TESTERS
What's a Focus Tester?

you guys are forgetting that fontaine is le expert grifter, he'd obviously just harvest what adam he could and then start a new operation under a new alias wherever the hell he wanted
dude can make you shoot fire from your hands and control your mind with pheromones, pretty sure he'd be fine outside of crapture

I think that was the whole point of coming to Rapture in the first place.

You are just a propagandized retard.
>this world leader, who I've never learned anything about, never heard a speech, or read a word he has written, is just evil because he opposes the government that rules over me

>Rapture was never supposed to be in ruins
every single thing in the game points to rapture's inevitable collapse, ryan couldnt stand not being at the top, compromising things he believed in to keep his dream within his grasp
>The death penalty in Rapture! Council's in an uproar. Riots in the streets they say! But this is the time for leadership. Action must be taken against the smugglers. Any contact with the surface exposes Rapture to the very Parasites we fled from. A few stretched necks are a small price to pay for our ideals.
>Something must be done about Fontaine. While I was buying buildings and fish futures, he was cornering the market on genotypes and nucleotide sequences. Rapture is transforming before my eyes. The Great Chain is pulling away from me. Perhaps it's time to give it a tug.
>Rapture's changing, but Ryan can't see the wolves in the woods. This Fontaine fellow... he's a crook and a proper tea leaf, but he's got the ADAM, and that makes him the guv'nor. He's sinking the profits back into bigger and better Plasmids, building them Fontaine Poorhouses... more like Fontaine recruiting centers... 'Fore we know it, Bloke's gonna have an army of Splicers, and we're gonna have ourselves a whole heap of miseries.
>Doctor Suchong, frankly, I'm shocked by your proposal. If we were to modify the structure of our commercial Plasmid line as you propose, to have them make the user vulnerable to mental suggestion through pheromones, would we not be able to effectively control the actions of the citizens of Rapture? Free will is the cornerstone of this city. The thought of sacrificing it is abhorrent. However… we are indeed in a time of war. If Atlas and his bandits have their way, will they not turn us into slaves? And what will become of free will then? Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Literally ADAM

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I actually read enough of his stuff to know that he is a retard that should be removed as far from any position in leadership as possible. His essays going back to the days of the pecheneg invaders, which he somehow contrasts with nazis during ww2 and nato forces today are delusional and beyond retarded. I think it is because he doesn't actually believe into any of that "great destiny" bullshit and only does this for the power. If you are a defender of all slavic peoples and are the third rome and shiet, starting a war that primarily damages your very slavic peoples is both stupid and evil.

kek

He was an adam junkie at that point

He is Levine's goy strawman, that is why he wasn't written well compared to Rapture's jewish sociopaths.

He looks like my sociology teacher.

As the player character, you only see the worst of it, since everyone can sense that you're absolutely fucking loaded with Adam.

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>take all the Adam
>without jack intervention basically become a demigod
>use pheromones to control splicers as personal meta human army
>hundreds of military drones
>access to technology never seen before in the surface
>either take over the world by force or sell plasmids to the most important nations (therefore controlling them with pheromones) in exchange of power/tech/weapons
>little sister loli harem that produces infinite Adam

Yeah I think Fontaine is based, but not as based as Ryan, also I don’t know why people hate his boss fight, is like a big daddy but with cool elemental powers, personally I didn’t like 2 or infinite “defend the thing” last battle against waves of enemies, is boring as fuck, and don’t dare to say that Sinclair was the final boss, an alpha series with triple health is still mediocre not even a good damage sponge, and using songbird in infinite doesn’t feel like anything, I didn’t even notice the blimps or what were they doing and just pressing E to destroy them isn’t satisfying

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>nooo objectivism doesnt work because of slugs making everyone crazy and poor people, dont you wish you had a government taxing you XD?
Levine is a hack

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His ADAM-ed up model has a butthole

Keep in mind Ryan was hiding under the sea knowing that either the Americans or Soviets would shut him down so I don't see Rapture being able to remain independent for long if the secret is revealed.

I think Fontaine went crazy just like the rest of them.