Did Kingdom Hearts lose its appeal over the years?

Did Kingdom Hearts lose its appeal over the years?

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Yes.

a bit I think, but mostly it's nomura's that's lost his touch; that or his team sucks bow
Sure KH was always really goofy and convoluted after KHI but even in this light KH3 is really inferior in writing and symbolics, i wonder what happened

after they dropped FF characters the series was done and nomura already confirmed it won't be any different with KH4 so gg.

KH only had a single good game that was released 20years ago. It's been mostly going downhill but with small ups along the way (Birth By Sleep)

No fucking doubt it does, Also you must be the same person creating these KH threads over and over again.

Listen here buddy, the only good KH games were 1 and 2 everything else was absolute DOG SHIT.

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

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I think the main problem with kingdom hearts is that it has no brevity. Instead of each game being it's own self contained adventure that could exist with or without a sequel, it became this lore clusterfuck that you need a 3 hour video to explain to newcomers because the story spans across several games from wildly different platforms INCLUDING mobile phone games.

There's nothing wrong with having that kind of ambition, but it's got the shounen anime problem where it becomes impenetrable and has the whole
>"NO GUYS SERIOUSLY NARUTO/ONE PIECE/HUNTER X HUNTER GETS GOOD AT EPISODE 500 WE SWEAR"
problem that permeates a lot of other long running series' that had the same issue as Kingdom Hearts. And with that much length on a series, it's eventually for nothing, because while you're keeping track of all this lore, there's bound to be retcons and asspulls somewhere, like "no guys really sora was around the whole time he was just hidden away in other people and there's totally a way to come back from being a heartless"

What killed Kingdom Hearts for me is the story became way too bad for me to tolerate. So I used KH3 as a dropping point. I'm not going to bother with Kingdom Hearts 4 (will watch the cut scenes for free on Youtube though).

Besides the story becoming shit, I hate Disney as a company now and hate their animated movies ever since Princess and the Frog. And no, Tangled is shit. Frozen is shit. Zootopia is shit, Moana and Coco are shit. Disney makes SHIT. And if the movies are shit they would make abysmal worlds in Kingdom Hearts.

So shit original story and shit Disney worlds? Kingdom Hearts lost me forever. Yeah Kingdom Hearts lost its appeal years ago. The fault lies entirely on both Nomura and Disney.

Only if you matured or changed as a person since you were 12. Autistic people don't have that problem and KH will still appeal to them when they're in their 60s - unless they're trans (they won't live that long)

Kingdom hearts is shit
ff7 R is shit
Sequels will be shit
Nomura is a huge faggot
That is all

Different writers+nomura didn't have such a prominent role until after KH2

Nomura is decent at creating moments, but he's abosulte trash at creating stories

They didn't drop FF characters.

You just described the Sonic fanbase. Those defective losers still worship Sonic and Sega somehow. And they actually got HAPPY over the recent Sonic Origins Collection. Yeah the same ancient games being re-released yet again. What a bunch of lamers. But you are correct these autists never mature and never wise up.

Kingdom Hearts unfortunately have such people. Which annoys me because nothing can kill Kingdom Hearts then. It will be like Sonic. A never ending series that always cashes out and sells sadly.

There were no FF characters in 3 and Nomura said in an interview FF characters were used to attract people to the series but KH is now its own thing, it's hard to fit FF characters into an already large cast

He really needs an editor. Nomura said he only revived Namine, Roxas, and Xion due to fan pressure. Nomura needed an editor right there to tell him "You revive the dead I beat you to death."

Nomura ensured no one can even hope to take the story seriously. Xehanort died? Pfft it's bad writing is he actually truly died in KH3. I don't believe he's dead. That's what Nomura's shit writing does. And there's plenty of other failings in Nomura's writing.

>everything after KH2 is bad
Reddit moment.

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>There were no FF characters in 3

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>more people like KH3 than KH1
Seems pretty based imo.

Probably all of these for me, not to mention the fucking gap between 2 and 3 granted I did play most of the spin-offs but regulating a bunch of very important story moments or revaluations to games some people might not touch is stupid desu.

Also 3’s plot was so stupid and nonsensical. I feel like it wouldn’t even take much to solve that issue either. Sora goes to these world it feels and it feels like he’s not even learning anything or advancing the plot. They have this “awakening” thing he has to learn but none of these worlds are helping him achieve that and the plot magically starts later in the game and then it’s over. All you’d have to do it’s have him learn something new from each place that helps him understand what he has to do.

I also think reviving all those characters was just pure fan service. Sora should be soloing pretty much everyone on the evil team.

>there's bound to be retcons and asspulls somewhere, like "no guys really sora was around the whole time he was just hidden away
The only instance that I can think of where this happened is with 0.2 where Aqua was supposedly around during the KH1 finale.

I'm baffled they still fund more games instead of telling Nomura to wrap it up. I doubt KH3 made a lot of money given it's long dev cycle and fast depreciation of physical copies.

Re mind doesn't count

Unfortunately yes. Disney became far too money hungry and that leaked over into KH.

You mean the game that was an absolute snooze fest except for the very few Org fights it had/ Final boss?

Seems like they're zoomers to me.

>spin-offs
Stopped reading there.
KH has no spinoffs.
>Re mind doesn't count
Remind is part of KH3. Its like saying KH2 has no post game content because Final Mix doesn't count.

>he didn't like the Toy Story level
Okay tranny.

I'll be 42 in a few days and I like KH3 more than KH1. In fact I like most KH games more than KH1.

Re mind is a DLC and is its own thing. Final mix were complete reworks of the games, they are different things

You are a faggot. There is no difference between Re Mind and Final Mixes.

>You mean the game that was an absolute snooze fest except for the very few Org fights it had/ Final boss?
>Seems like they're zoomers to me.

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>KH has no spin-offs
What did he mean by this?

Unironically, you simply grew up.

Must be a tran.

does terra and aqua giving keyblades to sora and riku count as that? cause that plotpoint in bbs annoyed me a little

100% male and probably have a bigger dick than you.

>KH has no spinoffs.
Chain of memories
358/2 days
Birth by sleep
2.8
DDD
coded

the appeal is still there but anyone looking for something deeper in terms of gameplay should look elsewhere
osaka team can't make combat for shit

No

they are not spin offs because they all are relevant to the whole story. that's my guess

None of those are spinoffs.
All are important to the main plot of the game.

You can't call me a tran when I'lm calling YOU a tran for following KH after 2, shit is sad af.

Eh idk, cause Sora and Riku taking the keyblade from eachother back in KH1 was weird to begin with. A better example would be something like Marluxia/Lauriam suddenly being a time traveler from the keyblade war era.

Agreed about the gap between 2 and 3. That gap was literally filled with bridge games scattered to different handhelds. Oh sure they eventually got released on collections but by then the novelty of a game like Birth by Sleep being new? That was gone.

And Nomura has not learned his lesson. Handhelds may not exist anymore, but Nomura has become obsessed with using smart phone games to keep expanding the story of Kingdom Hearts which makes it difficult to keep up with it, not to mention that the graphics of those games are uglier than the pixel sprites from the Game Boy Advance Chain of Memories game. I swear Nomura does this on purpose, he wants to sabotage Kingdom Hearts. He's making it to tedious to keep up with it that the series is discontinued whenever it finally fails. And he may indeed get his wish. Many people are just DONE with Kingdom Hearts.

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Any Forums the land of make belief.

You probably didn't play KH1 when it first released then.

>even Nojima was confused by Nomura's ideas in KH2 and jumped the ship
Imagine how bad it's gonna get in KH4.

Wrong again faggot.
I played every single game when it first released.
In fact the only reason I bought KH1 was cause at the time, Squaresoft had never made a bad game.

No. Nomura has written almost all great stories that are impossible to predict, and one misfire with KH3 seems to has ruined his reputation with everyone which is disappointing. The KH3 DLC even makes the ending way better, and it's very possible it wasn't even his fault and Square wanted to cut some of the ending for DLC.

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Maybe for all the secondaries who don't play the side games or follow the mobile, but I'm having a blast.

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Yes.
Compare the state of Kingdom Hearts in the mid 2000s vs now.
Not even the shadow of what it was.

Your a retard.
KH is way bigger now than it was in the mid 2000s.