Villains who were completely wrong and evil

armstrong is a fucking hypocrite. he rightfully calls out the current power structures for being immoral, but still tries justifying that it's okay for HIM to do the same exact thing because the ends justify the means or whatever

I didn't really get that he had a plan at all
If he hadn't had some stupid plot about tormenting third world children for no reason and hadn't said "the weak will be purged" I don't know what you're supposed to hold against him. He didn't even actually kill the president it was just some false flag thing

Fuck the Lufenians

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Most of them to be fair, vidya villains are often cartoonishly evil

That's the whole point of the story, Raiden is only right because he won. Might makes right is the rule.

Raiden protects the weak, he doesn't purge them

The problem is that you can't apply it on modern civilization. The game itself shows it with Sunny. She is not a fighter and she is obviously not a rich girl with a ton of power, she only knows how to build rockets and probably giant anime robots, which are necessary for, example, send Raiden to the other side of world to fight Armstrong. Raiden and the PMCs need people like Sunny to do their job, while Sunny needs people like Raiden to not get killed. The same applies to nations and social classes.
He didn't justify anything. His speech is not about morals, is about change. He wants to destroy the current status quo because he knows is a bunch of bullshit that stops actual progress, but because he knows nothing about the weak, Raiden stops him. That's why the games (MGS4 included) call Raiden a hero, despite being a cold blooded killer, Raiden knows we need a change but until that happens he will defend the weak from the fucked up system.

But he wasnt wrong, at least not completely. Sundowner is more evil and wrong than he is.

He carved his own path but Armstrong followed his wrath

Other way.

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No, Collective Consciousness is what Armstrong pretends is his point of view before his actual fight with Raiden. He’s the only boss in the game who’s motives and ideology doesn’t have a song to explain it.

Turning the world into a battle royale is stupid and anyone who supports Armstrong's plan is is equally stupid.

Hitler was a hero, user. Everybody here knows that.

>If he hadn't had some stupid plot about tormenting third world children for no reason
The idea was to turn them into cyborg supersoldiers. The training program was based on what Big Boss did to Raiden.

>pretends
It's not that he's pretending but more so that just as he explains later he's taking advantage of the system he despises to further his own ends, hence why the song about him puppeteering a country is playing as he pilots a Metal Gear

Dude was a moralfag, and moralfaggotry is weakness.

Can you hate him tho?

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>what Big Boss did to Raiden.
? You mean Solidus?

Yeah, pretending was the wrong word. He’s using the current system that he disagrees with in order to create his world of strength.

Sure.

Doesn't Matter

Seriously, I even read the prequel novel and what he does still makes no sense or at least the way he goes about it. I get why he has this holier than though attitude with everything he went through but he really doesn't come off as smart as they want him to.