This game literally separated the 2010s into two different cultural eras. The early 2010s were marked by sincerity and bold-faced eclecticism in games while the late 2010s were focused on irony and trying to figure out what it meant to tell an 'authentic' story. The reason people say the 2010s had no cultural movements is because they're thinking of the entire decade instead of splitting it up, and this game is part of that reason.
This game literally separated the 2010s into two different cultural eras...
Hudson Lee
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Camden Young
The real question is when will this fucking cancerous post ironic meta referential subversive trend die out? It's all so tiring
Cooper Sanders
This game and both its and the general lack of authenticity and genuineness in society and media are the result of the internet becoming hugely widespread in everyone's pocket through smartphones and everyone starting to hold back real emotions and honesty in favor of posturing online and making fun of themselves in order to avoid being called cringe by strangers online
Never, it's here to stay as long as the internet remains a core part of humanity's lives
Thomas Harris
No the game was not THAT big on society.
The 2010 split was because of Donald Trump running for president and winning.
Cameron Long
What fucking world are you living in if you think Undertale is post-ironic?
Josiah Gray
At this point I seen people both claim undertale is popular for being sincere and for being ironic.
Cooper Cook
Is it true Toby Fox used to come to Any Forums before undertale was released? Is there any proof?
Hudson Harris
It is a post ironic game by design. It pokes fun at dumb references but it makes them at the same time. It tries to subvert tropes by having ineffectual fights, but it also has a linear difficulty curve and wants desperately to be seen as having unique gameplay.
Anthony Carter
he was a prevalent shitposter in Any Forums's Homestuck threads
Parker King
with a tripcode or nah?
Lincoln Nelson
It's definitely post-ironic
>normal games e.g. Super Mario, completely straightforward
>ironic games e.g. I Wanna Be The Guy, every single thing is played for a joke
>post ironic game, Undertale, everything is played for a joke but attempts to be taken seriously and tell an actual story anyway
Chase Lopez
He shilled everywhere from Homestuck forums to Any Forums to RockPaperShotgun. Undertale's popularity had nothing to do with being some hidden indie gem, it was entirely false in order to push a narrative.
Carter Cox
undertale is steeped in millenial online humor but the story and characters take itself entirely seriously. it's completely sincere, what are you spregs on about
Liam Martin
This is only true in regards to indie games, and its not an era at all, just a trend.
The thing about indie game trends is no one trend really dies. Every category of indie keeps having content pumped out for it, and it's whether or not it's popular that dictates it as what could be considered an Era.
The early 2010s saw a huge spike in retro style games, conveniently after Shovel Knight brought the genre back.
The late 2010s were filled with "let's revive this old game franchise as an indie franchise" after Stardew Valley came out.
The mid 2010s had a lot of ironic games because of Goat Simulator, and a lot of simple but silly horror games with a deep lore because of FNAF.
Acting like Undertale changed the entire game industry is overstating things quite a bit. They're just trends, and trends stick around once they're born.
Hudson Kelly
>it's completely sincere
lol no, you have one warped definition of sincere
Tyler Murphy
the undertale fanbase is worse than sonic, pokemon and mlp combined
Lucas Bailey
Trends still influence culture. I don't know why you're disregarding that. Do you think memes don't matter when children start parroting them?
MLP had a good thing going. Bronies were sincere in their depravity and knew how to take a joke, they also still have more porn than literally any IP (look it up, it's true) but they died when the show started actively trying to appeal to them and making shit political.
Christopher Scott
the entire game is about pacificsm and cliche power of friendship shit
at no point does it subvert that
literally tell me where it's being insincere aside from the fact it has a lot of humor, which isn't even cynical humor
Tyler Carter
Camden Allen
Did you come up with this all by yourself or did you steal it from r/im12andthisisdeep you fat American nigger?
Nathaniel Butler
This.
The only thing undertale has contributed is how many autistic furfags spam how badly they want to fuck little goat boys everywhere. Props to the dev for pandering to every mental illness under the sun, it was a genius move knowing how hard they'd latch on and never let go.
Aiden Lee
see It subverts it throughout the whole game by playing pacifism and friendship shit for jokes, and then it expects you to actually take it seriously in the end.
Robert Ramirez
Subverting tropes doesn't make something post-ironic. The tropes it subverts it does in the service of the narrative, to get you to think about your choices and their affect on the world. If I had to guess I'd say the surface level theme would be empathy. But if you go deeper it's a commentary on our interactions with fictional media, how we want more and poke and prod even though that may not be satisfying for us in the end.
Again it's open to interpretation, but Toby Fox definitely had a point he was making. It wasn't just some meaningless nihilistic post irony bullshit. You suggesting otherwise just makes me think you didn't play the game.
Eli Garcia
>he early 2010s were marked by sincerity
That would be the late 2000s zoomie. The last good era.
Hudson Howard
you can make jokes about things you are passionate about
honest question not trying to be mean, are you autistic and can't tell when it's appropriate to make a joke about something you care about
Jacob Collins
Imagine simping for undertale
Oliver Robinson
>Subverting tropes doesn't make something post-ironic
Subverting tropes and then pretending they weren't subverted just seconds ago is what makes something post ironic, which is what Undertale does
Jacob Watson
Blake Evans
>you can make jokes about things you are passionate about
You can, it makes you ironic, when you try to steer back into wanting them to be taken seriously anyway, it makes you post ironic. Why are you so mad about the definitions of words.
Ayden Edwards
There's nothing I loath more than "games about games".
Isaac Barnes
the thing is it doesn't even subvert many tropes. the narrative is relatively straightforward
Lucas Richardson
>Why are you so mad about the definitions of words.
Says the guy who obviously has no idea what the word "ironic" means.
Jacob Hughes
Literally none of that is accurate.
Jeremiah Baker
Literally every single thing you see in the game is subverted, absolutely nothing is what it seems to be and is usually the exact opposite. It's like a game where everything is a mimic chest.
Isaac Moore
Stop lying. The average Undertale player does not see Toriel's character arc and question how they relate to their own mothers, or try to understand why tutorials in games exist. They see a MILF and want to have sex with her. Stop trying to ignore obvious degeneracy. Toby Fox deliberately included fetish bait like her, Muffet and Undyne because he knew that the only way to make people empathize with his characters would be if they were fuckable.
Caleb Watson
your post is fuckable
Isaac Martin
Why does he hide his real name?
Luis Flores
Fungible posts are here.
Nolan Wright
I am 80% sure that neither of you even played the game.
Jose Powell
>undye
>fuckable
>literally a skinny anthro fish that’s ugly as fuck and a carpet muncher
No
Landon Turner
/facepalm
Joshua Bennett
>>undyne
>>fuckable
Yes
Bentley Jenkins
Why lie and pretend? What do you get out of trying to paint Undertale as a non-furry bait game?
Aiden Thomas
>another worthless undertale thread where OP and like-minded newfag retards show off how little reading comprehension they have
no thanks
Nicholas Diaz
>You can, it makes you ironic
that is not fucking true
cracking a joke about something you care about is the complete opposite of cynical irony
>when you try to steer back into wanting them to be taken seriously anyway, it makes you post ironic.
you are trying way too hard to sound smart, please argue in good faith in the future
Tyler Butler
When the demo was posted I "think" he posted here, at least some one claiming to be him. Also this old image
Landon Long
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Asher Stewart
>Irony, in its broadest sense, is a characterization of a situation which discloses that what on the surface appears to be the case contrasts consequentially with what is actually the case.
Stop being mad about the definitions of words.
Evan Ramirez
>>Irony, in its broadest sense, is a characterization of a situation which discloses that what on the surface appears to be the case contrasts consequentially with what is actually the case.
Cool, so by this definition there's little in Undertale that's ironic.
Aiden Jones
Man this guy was always high on his own farts wasn't he
Colton King
obviously they think any story that has a serious narrative yet also contains jokes is ironic. which is idiotic.
Landon Cook
>It subverts it throughout the whole game by playing pacifism and friendship shit for jokes
Matthew Bennett
Don't care. Didn't ask. Game is shit.
Colton Rivera
Nobody cares about the game anyway, it's just a vehicle. All you need to know about undertale is if featured human characters instead of anthros, everyone would hate it and it'd be considered pozzed as shit, instead of people using wanting to fuck the furries as an excuse for everything.
Carson Carter
But it doesn't, in fact it consistently portrays pacifism and friendship as positives.
Andrew Sanchez
this is still one of the worst things that I've ever witnessed. the sad thing is that people will still defend it with "he was only pretending to be retarded!!1!"
Nathaniel Gray
Honestly I think this is the reason nobody cares about Lisa or Yume Nikki anymore. Not even Oneshot would've been popular if it didn't have the ambiguously gendered neko
Brody Roberts
He was right, his demo was loved, the game was loved for about a week until the sex addicts rolled in and annoyed every one who saw Undertale related material.
Tyler Gray
Toby Fox is a musical genius and I don't care what anyone says. Undertale may not be a literary masterpiece, but it is at least sincere and heartfelt, and the music elevates it significantly IMHO. It's greater than sum of its parts.
Brandon Hughes
as expected of Any Forums, make up a completely nonsensical theorem to shit on a game you've never played and then try to brute force your argument
we really never got over the tortanic. worse than that, we got bots aping the talking points
God save us
Christopher Ortiz
*actually ruins culture for real while op is swallowing gay dicks*
Tyler Watson
Really nigga, you're using fucking esix to determine what's hot? Do you need me to bring up 39k results for vore and otherworldly lovecraftian shit?