no, this wasn't a ''good'' ''platformer'', you were just a miserable kid whose parents couldn't afford a Nintendo
No, this wasn't a ''good'' ''platformer'', you were just a miserable kid whose parents couldn't afford a Nintendo
Wyatt Russell
Brody Sanders
no it was good actually, in fact Sunshine was so bad that I remember Jak and Daxter being better than it despite Mario 64 mogging everything that came before it
Christian Watson
Correct. Same with other scrimblo shit like Spyro, Crash, Ratchet, etc.
Isaiah James
I jumped from N64 to PS2 and I wasn't a big fan of Jak or even Ratchet 1. The sequels were far more unique, at least weren't aping off of Mario 64/Rare platformers for all of their existence.
Andrew Anderson
>I jumped from N64 to PS2 and I wasn't a big fan of Jak or even Ratchet 1. The sequels were far more unique, at least weren't aping off of Mario 64/Rare platformers for all of their existence.
How were Jak or even Ratchet aping off of Mario 64/Rare?
Asher Price
it's like Super Mario 64 but Jak is way more precise to control than Mario who just glides around, good game
Ian Bell
Jak 1 is better then most 3D marios. Cope.
Nicholas Howard
jak takes a fat shit over mario sunshine, all 3 games in fact
Kayden Hughes
anyone else pop a boner when daxter fell into the dark eco
Hudson Bell
Have you never played Mario 64 or Banjo? Jak and Daxter is basically Banjo Kazooie with worse abilities and a shittier soundtrack
Jayden Murphy
*has the best fishing mini-game in your path*
Tyler Hall
>with worse abilities
Nice bait, Banjo's Abilities fucking suck and are a sore spot in a other alright game
Ethan Richardson
Nintendobaby here. Loved Jak n Daxter. Then Jak II came out and the series stopped existing for me.
Gabriel Hall
>tendies still coping 15 years later about not picking the best system of the 5th and 6th gen
Let it go anons. You'll be happier
Grayson Baker
>near launch title
>seamless world
>day night cycle
>fully voice acted
>controls like a dream
>fluidly animated
>still looks good to this day
Just how did they do it? And why can't they do it anymore?
Jaxon Baker
I played this recently it's literally the best collectathon platformer ever made.
Jak2 and Jak3 are messes but this one is extremely good.
Xavier Roberts
Played it for the first time this year, absolutely wonderful. Even today the fact that ND made this experience feel so seamless this early into the PS2 lifespan is insane. It's a shame this game came out so close to the paradigm shift that GTA 3 caused because having a trilogy of Jak and Daxter games that just build on what worked in Jak 1 would have been amazing.
Camden Williams
>Have you never played Mario 64 or Banjo?
Yeah they control like fucking shit and the level design sucks. not to mention the horrible camera.
Brody Rodriguez
I can't stress how important it is that you immediately kill yourself
Jordan Torres
It was the best
Joseph Jones
have you replayed Mario 64 once you no longer were a child? it indeed controls like shit
Charles Russell
>Jak II came out
This was when I knew Naughty Dog was creatively bankrupt from a gameplay perspective.
Noah Robinson
Jak trilogy is still one of my all time favorites and takes a hot shit on any platformer from 64 or Gamecube.
Samuel Baker
the whole zero loading screens for a game like this really doesn't get nearly enough credit as it should, even at the time. This was one of the first games I played as a kid I truly felt immersed in, compared to N64 and ps1 titles
Aaron Cox
Based lol
Zachary Taylor
>This was when I knew Naughty Dog was creatively bankrupt from a gameplay perspective.
Why was Jak II so different from Jak I?
Cooper Baker
The underwater city elevator is the only time it's obvious there's a loading screen
Brody Walker
HERE COMES A BIG ONE
Benjamin Taylor
Banjo controls are objectively bad. there are ways to get around some mario 64 control problems but the design is still bad.
the way Mario slides around like a retarded faggot, get locked in a crouch if you tap it, struggles to turn around and slides forward if you hold backwards shows the movement of both was badly coded and modern platformers learned from and fixed these mistakes.
The movement and cameras of these games were very badly made because the devs lacked knowledge. the face you can't except these old games had huge flaws that worsened with age just makes you a nostalgia fag.
Benjamin Gomez
What the fuck is a Nintendo?
Juan Howard
>Jak & Daxter
>apes gameplay mechanics from spyro/m64/banjo kazooie in an interesting setting with lore surrounding gameplay mechanics
>Jak II
>we want the GTA audience, timeskip into grungy ugly ass world, DONUT STEEL cringy characters and silent protag turns into 2edgy4me nonsense, old lore thrown out entirely so gameplay mechanics can introduce guns which control so fucking awful, vehicle controls are even worse and the world play area is so tightly designed you have to wonder how this was the same company that made Crash Team Racing
Dylan Torres
>world play area is so tightly designed
Sorry, should be
>world play area is so constricted
Lincoln Cook
Jak 1 has soul. Mario Sunshine was a soulless gimmicky disappointment after how good m64 was
Luis Rodriguez
>tfw got a PS2 for Christmas with Jak & Daxter, Rachet & Clank, and Sly Cooper
Gabriel Wood
kek I love that guy
Josiah Ross
GTA 3 came out and platformers stopped being the hot thing
Julian Taylor
Seethe you faggot tendie, he's right. Mario has always have shitty movement and retarded gravity
Christian Ward
Jak 2 had plenty of humor and the first game ended with them discovering the time portal.
Jaxon Campbell
The first game ended with them discovering "something". It was literally a fade to white with them saying "Whaaaaat is it????"
They could've gone anywhere with a sequel hook that vague
Asher Carter
You know, people say Jak II isn't creative, but how many 3D platformers are there with GTA elements? That's not rhetorical. Are there others?