Elden Ring has the worst PvP of any fromsoft game and it's not even close

Elden Ring has the worst PvP of any fromsoft game and it's not even close.

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Ranking pvp in souls games is like organizing wet turds by their size. It's all still shit.

I think 1 is still worse but a considerable margin but this is a close second

What makes me more mad is that they disabled ds3 PvP on pc and still didn't turn it on

It's better than 3 by a mile. Main issue with ER is that invasions are already dead because of how shit the matchmaking zone sizes are.
The balance crying is all DS3 tards who where filtered by fighting games.

PvP wise ER is pretty bad but DS1 and DeS is the worst ones by far.
The best ones are DS3 and DS2.

Invasions are about to be kill for good anyway. I can admit I only ever did it for the sadistic pleasure.

Haven't even played it once because I knew this would be the case. Learn from history.

I enjoy it, and I've played every Fromsoft game with invasions. It was another Dark Souls 3: I initially hated it, but then I adapted and enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. I have to wonder whether the people who think Elden Ring's PVP is any worse than 1's are smoking crack.

"Downscaling" and the lack of covenants are the only objectively shit aspects.

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Literally everyone doing pvp in souls games are filtered by fighting games. If they weren't then they'd be playing fucking fighting games. Just load up +R instead of wasting your time debating what rune cap for duels and what is and isn't banned.

Fighting game player here. I would like Elden Ring PvP to be good and it's a shame it isn't. Nobody plays +R and mentioning it just makes you look like a poser.

Okay, let me just load up USF4 and crash another player's lobby with my custom Hugo build that I spent 5 hours making. Same exact game.

I just wish I fucking understood the danm summon ranges. I've like beaten most of the bosses in this game and I'm like barely level 50 with +11 weapons. I have no gotten invaded in forever, even when I have taunter's tongue on.

It's more broken than 1. Nothing in 1 comes close to BHS. There aren't 4000 different one shots in 1. There aren't spells which are impossible to roll in 1

>bhs
i agree that bhs is broken, but i never see it outside of meta level. maybe 1 in 50 invasions in the 20-90 range has bhs. i almost wish i was lying because it sounds like bullshit.
>1 shots
fair, but i think that this could be fixed by making damage modifiers additive rather than multiplicative.
>spells
are fine, except downscaled stars of ruin. i'm happy that magic is good in almost all of its forms in elden ring.

I'm simply glad we got another game with forced invasions in the current climate of thin-skinned gamers that scream their shitty opinions online all day. Hope it isn't the last one.
All the game really needs to be good are a few balance tweaks and some more pvp content like covenants, arena and invader boss fights. We're also most likely getting more weapons to play with as DLC, hopefully some changes to the core game as well like a higher player cap.

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Imagine believing this.

>NOOOO STOP YOU CAN'T JUST OUTSMART ME USING THE ENVIRONMENT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE

1 had instant backstabs, stunlocking and poise tanking which ruined every aspect of pvp, invaders could invade at low levels with max upgrade level, It also had the ninja flip ring which was just as obnoxious as BHS, it was eventually nerfed and we can assume that BHS will get nerfed as well.

It's not low iq. Playing souls at a high level just makes you dumb for some reason.

This. I still have footage of Dark Souls 1 invasions on my dying hard drive and it's just a fucking clownshow mechanically. What saved PVP was that people were just playing through the game normally, and you'd only encounter the craziest shit in Undead Burg and the forest.

I think what really hurts Elden Ring's PVP is the way that the profitability of content creation and ease of accessing that content has ruined pretty much every multiplayer game in recent memory. If Dark Souls was released in the current year, online would be filled with ninja-flipping havelmoms spamming dark bead and backstab-fishing giantdads hoping that their opponents don't know how to toggle escape infinite stunlock, all with a 99 humanity chaos dagger in their back pocket.

So, we can all agree that this game is the most balanced in terms of PVP?

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Yes, it's the one with the least amount of bullshit in it. They even fixed stunlocking which is rampant in every other game.

Yeah, but it's a sort of drawn out, "Yeaaah... sure," yeah. The average invasion was a bit of a slog because it was well-balanced by the end of its lifespan, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game. I prefer the pace of Elden Ring's invasions, personally.

I do miss the crazy shit you could do with 2-hit combos and off-hand weapons, though: youtube.com/watch?v=V0jWt8xmL3I

PVP? Co-op? What are you talking about, Dark Souls 3 never had any? Wait a minute, no Souls game ever had multiplayer...

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