Is he right, Any Forums?

Is he right, Any Forums?

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He's right that it'a not cheesing.
But still some strategies are easier and some strategies way harder. A lot of people find the harder strategies more rewarding so it's the same as claiming a game is more enjoyable on harder difficulties, which oftem enough is true for a lot of people.

He is right. If you use ashes/summons etc you've beaten the game... with ashes/summons etc.

You beaten the game with these helps, but you haven't beaten the game without them.

That specific example is cheesing by definition, because it relies on a number of unpatched exploits to obtain it early enough for it to actually be better than literally any other build.

Other than that who gives a fuck.

>I don't know who needs to hear this
Hey, we're off to a great start!

>Is he right?

Yeah man, I don't know.
>Game has weapons.
>Game has spells.
>Game has potions.
>Game has buffs.
>Game has NPC summons.
>Game has power-up items.
>Game has status effects.

Surely, all of these things were put in the game specifically for the purpose of not being used at all, right? Surely the real genius of the Dark Souls game design is that actually the devs work for years creating all this RPG shit specially because you're NOT supposed to use it.

I mean, using guns in Call of Duty is basically cheating. So obviously using any attacks at all in Dark Souls is cheating too. Doing damage is cheating. Turning on the game is cheating. Owning the game is cheating.

If you have Elden Ring installed on your computer or console, you didn't beat the game.

>but you haven't beaten the game without them.
If I eat a hot dog with ketchup, I did NOT eat the hot dog with mustard. Wow, no fucking shit.

struck the nerve, huh?

>don't let anyone devalue your experiance

what the fuck am I reading. how the fuck can you "devalue" an experiance.

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...what? How does his post saying "use the free FP physic flask and Comet Azure spell" imply using any exploits to do anything, much less unpatched exploits to obtain those things early?

Some people unironically let the discord trannies get to them, or are discord trannies themselves. Truly a fate worse than death.

Yes, user, your tautology hit me right in my core, it struck a deep and powerful blow to my psyche when you pointed out "If you do Thing A, you didn't do Thing B." Truly, you are the lord of all internet posting.

>your
lmao

if it speedrunner uses it, its probably broken, do speedrunners use spirits? i know they used the ice stomp before nerf

Weak minded faggots who let others determine if they had fun or not playing a single player game.

By making you feel worse for having done it? Bro are you stupid?

They use them for a few bosses, but generally going for specific ashes and upgrading them is a waste of time since they have to go out of their way to get them and the materials.

yeah he's not wrong but the idea that anyone needs assured by random freaks online that they actually 'beat' a game is pathetic

>do speedrunners use spirits?
The world record Elden Ring speedrunner literally only uses an un-upgraded base-level Imp Ashes summon, and only in the Elden Beast boss in order to distract it for long enough to smash it with Hoarfrost Stomp, since the summon dies in one hit.

people memeing each other into trying to fit in

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Faggot normies never learned to not care about internet opinions.

Don't you just love when someone you liked watching through the years gains a bit of fame and then proceeds to destroy what made them semi famous in the first place.

Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like infinite FP.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like RoB max bleed build.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like summoning for help/Mimic.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like watching Ecelebs.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like watching Vati lore vids.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like making a sexy toon to distract me in PvP.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like playing with a controller.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like HRT.
Yes YOU are a shitter for relying on crutch shit like being White.

YOU

ARE

A

SHITTER

>Crutch
Have you told your parents that you're gay yet?

YWNBAW redditor

This is actually a really good shitpost. I hope I see this more.

If you used the lantern/increase your brightness, you didn’t beat the game. Having a light source that requires you to sacrifice a weapon slot and your 2 handed attacks is the only acceptable way to explore dark areas.

No, as evident by the fact From nerfed the hell out of some of those weapon arts and summons and likely will nerf more as the months go on. The better question is why is "cheesing" frowned upon in a single player game? If you can get the game to roll the credits within the limits of the game, you beat the game. Reward creative thinking, cherish it, bolster it.

This dumb discourse reminds me of people who quit Sekiro right before Inshin because it was too hard and they weren't "enjoying" the game anymore. For a thing that isn't a big deal, you niggas sure like to defend yourself so much.

Trannies unironically are the best gamers. The combination of better reaction time and risk taking from their natural testosterone and higher intelligence and calmer heads from HRT is something no cisscum will ever hope match.

>devs include a "win game" button
>press it and instantly win the game
>IF YOU PRESSED IT YOU STILL BEAT THE GAME HONESTLY
Journalists need to be gassed.

If I beat a game 'the hard way' and someone else beat it 'the easy way' why would I try to discourage them from playing the easy way if I consider myself superior for beating it the hard way? Would I not want to maintain that sense of superiority? Or do I need to make others aware that I beat it the hard way and they should feel bad for beating it the easy way since that signals my superiority? Why would I care whether or not someone knows I beat it the hard way? What have I got to prove to random people on the internet?

>Will ever hope match.
Stopped reading right there