weeb niggas kept telling me they learned the 2k vocab in like 3-6 months.
Been at least since january 2021 memorizing and I'm barely at 900 words so far.
And no, I don't want to just skim the anki deck (I use memrise). It takes me around 12 days to long term memorize a batch of 10-15 words. Doing slowly, but steady.
I still can't read for shit, but I get most often than not a few random words I know in most twitter shit I read from japanese artists, so that's good.
I feel like I should quit, so I took a two months vacations from memorizing, but today I resumed with some diferent memrise vocab courses. Slow and steady, It may take me maybe another 18 months before reaching 2k words. But hey, I already wasted a decade on this crappy site, who the fuck cares for another year and half, right.
In my experience, learning the language has been worthy because those niggas live in their own social bubbles where they only speak to other niggas in japanese and they usually really really suck dick shit in english or any other language.
Also, plenty of untranslated material from niche japanese sites as well as random niche shit from like random blogs about rpg maker or some shit, so is worth the effort.
But, damn, fucking piece of shit language, is not easy.
Sounds like you're just a fucking retard. Took you a year to learn 900 words? Then it'll take you TWENTY YEARS to achieve the basic level of a high school graduate. 30 if you want decent fluency.
Robert Rogers
I'm not skimming the words like a retard, retardo.
I really take the time to memorize the words long term.
>bro, I memorized 500 words in a week No, you read them, but you didnt memorize them.
>Been at least since january 2021 memorizing and I'm barely at 900 words so far. Nigger what the fuck are you doing. Get rikaikun for your browser and start mining your own cards.
Sebastian Green
It takes 10-12 days to memorize a word.
>bro, I read the 2k anki deck in a week That's called skimming, not memorizing.
skimming != memorizing the word.
Connor Allen
Made me laugh. You're fucking stupid
Carson Anderson
I studied 500 words in a day during a Space Dandy marathon on nicovideo once.
>I really take the time to memorize the words long term. This is because you're a retard. I have literally 600k reviews in anki, which is about 200 per day on average. Know how long my reps take? Like 5 minutes.
You aren't memorising shit, you're trying to grind stuff into your brain in an incredibly inefficient manner. So I forget a word every so often with a 10 month interval, so what? At least I didn't spend hours trying to reinforce concepts before they were due.
Justin Reyes
>I memorize the word >but I forget them >So what
So you're not memorizing the words. Your point?
Colton Lopez
Memorisation is a process that takes months and years due to the way long term memories are formed. You can't force it by spending 10 hours a day "memorising" something, which is why you've taken a year to do something I did in a month.
Dylan Morris
I literally don't spend more than 30-50 minutes retardo. I know my limits, trying to memorize more than 10-15 words batches end up in burn out long term. Also, skimming 500 words in a single day is not memorizing, is skimming. You wont be able to recall those words 6 months from now if you skim them. So, skimming is a waste of time.
My plan is to memorize long term memory enough words until I can start consuming japanese media and learn new words by inmersion.
No point in reading a text with a dictionary in hand, is just a really really awful experience.
Jackson Gray
should I learn vocabulary or every fucking on and kun pronunciation of each kanji first?
Chase Robinson
I've yet to start learning Japanese through writing hiragana. Given how shitty I am at time management and how I will be quite busy with collage, I'm afraid it's going to take me years to achieve basic understanding of the Japanese language.
If you start today, five years from now you'll speak the language.
Liam Jones
I reccomend busu, I was on memrise for a while but busu really makes you learn the shit i'm learning spanish on it and it's good
Tyler Scott
you are wasting time with anki your main objective is to consume as much media as possible,I assume you already know kana and already read tae kim. -Install mozc for typing in japanese using romaji github.com/google/mozc -Copy-paste words you see and hear into Jisho jisho.org/ Now memorize the stuff you consume
Joseph Thompson
>bro, just read japanese while looking each word in a dictionary No, just no.
>If you start today, five years from now you'll speak the language That includes being able to being able to play games in Japanese language and reading raw manga with no problem, right?
Easton Carter
How the fuck are you going to learn a language if you don't know the words?
Samuel Gutierrez
Is English your main language? You're supposed to consume media while highlighting words that you don't so you can learn more words efficiently. That's how i learned English well
John Cox
Do you not think that maybe you're just doing it wrong when everyone else tells you they've learned 10x as much as you in the same time frame?
You have to read with lookup. Sure, it sucks, but it's the only way you're going to actually encounter Japanese, learning words in a vacuum is slow and stupid.
Noah Watson
Sure, even if you spend 30 minutes a day, if you keep it doing every morning before anything else is not really hard.
Even me, which I'm learning SLOW ON PURPOSE, took me 1k around year and half.
So 2k - 2500 words will take me 3 years.
so basically in the same time of a soccer world cup, even at my pace you can learn easily 3000 words.
And 3000 words is enough to not be fluent, but enough to consume japanese media and just learn new words by mere inmersion.
Which is slow and a miserable experience?
Why do you think I'm in a hurry? I literally said It will take me another year and half to reach 2k words. And then maybe another year to reach 3k words, then I'll be able to easily start consuming media and learn by inmerssion.
why the hurry?
>bro, I need to learn japanese in a month Which is the main reason why 99.9% of people burn out and quit?
Ryder Baker
Learn vocab so you can actually understand shit, focus on kanji later if you feel a need to but you'll pick up a lot of it along the way via vocab anyway
Gavin Cook
>grinding words like a retard grammar is 20 times more important, especially if your goal is just daily life conversations just by identifying the structure of a sentence and its verb you already know 90% of its meaning
Jack Thompson
japanese grammar is retarded as fuck, you can learn that shit in two days.
Daniel Cook
>And then maybe another year to reach 3k words, then I'll be able to easily start consuming media and learn by inmerssion. Buddy, at 3k words, you won't be able to read shit. It'll take you 3 years to get to the starting line everyone else manages in 3 months. Again, it WILL take you 30 years at your current pace. Things aren't suddenly going to explode when you hit 3k, you're going to realise that 60% comprehension doesn't actually mean anything and it's still just as bad as it was back when you knew 900 words. And then you'll quit.
Caleb Nguyen
You can do that by reading list of Japanese particles on Wikipedia
Gabriel Diaz
yep this is the motivation I needed
Dominic Cook
No, but at 3k I can start to learn by inmersion.
>3 months Which requires basically to skim for like 5-6 hours every day for 9-10 weeks non stop?
I'm not complaining retard.
Why the fuck do you want to learn a skill in 3 months?
Adrian Cox
keep at it, we all learn at our own pace, dont worry about it :-) dont try to speedrun learning a language t. learning jp since 2015 and only just n3
Eli Scott
>Which requires basically to skim for like 5-6 hours every day for 9-10 weeks non stop? No, it requires literally under 30 minutes of work a day. 20 new cards, caps out around 200 reviews a day. 20x30 is 600, you hit 2k in 3 months.
>Why the fuck do you want to learn a skill in 3 months? 3k isn't a skill. 3k is the starting line, you've wasted a year and now you're trying to convince yourself that everyone else is wrong or put in 6 hours a day "skimming", whatever the fuck that is meant to mean.
