Marika >Shattered the Elden Ring, plotted the death of Godwyn with Ranni and triggered a war the destroyed the lands between Ranni >Murdered her half-brother Godwyn, everyone close to her dies Malenia >nuked a fucking continent and caused the entire thing to rot just because she couldn't win a fight without doing so, failed to protect her brother Rannala >lost her marbles just because her husband left her Fia >Her entire persona is sleeping with every warrior she sees Melina >exists to burn herself alive
Isn't this problematic? With just a few good exceptions like Roderika & Millicent, in Elden Ring FROMsoftware/Miyazaki/GRRM have blamed women for everything that has went wrong in the Lands Between. This is emboldening the incel mindset.
the Greater Will is not good, any actions taken against it are not an indication of "things going wrong"
it's a capricious outer god parasite that landed on earth and tricked people into thinking it was the best thing ever, whilst simultaneously fucking over large swaths of the planet's inhabitants (dragons, giants, and people made tarnished got FUCKED by the Greater Will arriving and taking over)
Robert Evans
No, but here's the gist of it:
>Marika - Godfrey (Hoarah Loux) Godwyn the Golden, Morgott, Mohg, Godrick's Ancestors Marika then banishes Godfrey because reasons >Rennala - Radagon (actually Marika wearing a red wig) Rykard, Ranni, Radahn Marikagon then leaves Rennala because reasons >Marika - Radagon (actually Marika again lol) Miquella, Malenia
There are also more unnamed demigods, many presumably of Godrick and Godwyn's lineages
John Gray
Why if the world is literally completly fucked with all the souls of all the people going back to the great one, she's still alive?
Kayden Rogers
I still don't know why the shitty writter made Radagon and Marika being the same person and presenting it like a huge plot twist. Also how they even made 2 childrens if they're the same person.
Lincoln Thompson
Is Radagon not a seperate entity to Marika? I know at the end they're the same but I thought that before she married Radagon they were seperate
Noah Carter
Hyetta was never a "real" person. It's another frenzy demon like Shabriri that took over Irina's body.
Eli Hill
source on that?
Michael Taylor
Its infuriating
Nolan Williams
>same hair >same outfit >same appearance >same voice they are either the same person or identical twins
Charles Harris
>"Listen, the Fingers speak. "The Greater Will has long renounced the demigods. Tarnished, show no mercy. Have their heads. Take all they have left." ...Indeed. But remember one thing. The demigods are each and all the direct offspring of Queen Marika. Godrick the Grafted was but a distant relation... The runt of the litter, his divine blood sorely diluted".
Take the notion of 'stepchildren' as you will, but I truly believe Marika and Radagon were always fundamentally the same. Whether one arose through the fire-giants curse is another story.
Lucas Perry
Motherfucker, its a God. They don't obey any conventional rules. Even Ranni breaks those rules by discarding her body to be in a doll.
Nolan Mitchell
It's not totally clear right now and I'm not sure if it'll be objectively clear before we get DLC content. What we do know for sure is that they're absolutely a shared being in some form (the statue puzzle makes that clear), be it literally the same person like says , or maybe they're two separate beings but share the same soul or something like that.
Either way, Malenia & Miquella are basically the offspring of incest or self fucking
You can encounter Hyetta before Irina dies and still do her quest
Jason Mitchell
Yeah but what's the gigantic plot twist of it? Why put it in a secret on a questline?
Robert Gomez
Probably just hyper advanced Albaurnarics that don't lose their legs.
Benjamin Jackson
>Melina >exists to burn herself alive Melina is DLC content Vyke is the guy on the cover of the game and the Tarnished on the path of becoming the Elden Lord before /ourguy/ Melina was his ACTUAL finger maiden, but he couldn't sacrifice her so he decided to take the Flame of Frenzy. DLC will (hopefully) expand on them both
It's not really a twist that's meant to shock the player on an emotional level, more that it's an explanation for why the Erdtree and Marika are blocking the players path when they should be aiding them it provides a bit of context as to why the world is so bad since the chief diety is essentially at war with itself so that the supposed rules of succession aren't being followed as they should be.
At least that's my take
Nathaniel Hill
>This is emboldening the incel mindset It's what the game is about. >maidenless >touch grace >best ending is running away with a doll
Thomas Kelly
>Liar ahead Fuck off.
Adrian Reed
>Vyke >guy hyped up as the cover guy
>one random invasion where he runs up to me and dies in 3 seconds >one evergaol fight where he runs up to me and dies in 3 seconds
I mean, they could've at least made this guy a proper boss fight on the level of commandier Nial or something.
Or at least give him a boss fight like Gideon Ofnir's
Bentley Hughes
>>Her entire persona is sleeping with every warrior she sees Based
