Why is it ok to have murder and torture in video games but not rape or even just sex?

>Murder removes a character from the story, displays what another character is capable of/how far they've been pushed, establishes stakes.
>Explicit sex does... what exactly?
If you want to show that two characters fucked, then fine, that has purpose in a plot, but there's literally zero reason to just put hardcore porn in video games.

partial nudity exists, but its not ubiquitous like murder is. you cant just say "both exist therefore they are equal in quantity, severity, and frequency". no one goes on a twitter soapbox over violence.

Welcome to America.

I see my shitty naked body every day, I'd rather not see game dev's version of "real people" bodies in games

False.

>Tits have been in video games since the PS2 era
Fucking zoomies, get out of the internet.

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>but there's literally zero reason to just put hardcore porn in video games.
I want hard-core porn in my video game.
Fucking retard.

I don't disagree with you, just saying it doesn't go over well with the audience they're catering to

Moralfag boomers were doing murder and torture all across the globe during their time.

murder removes a character
sex adds a character

hardcore porn is no more gratuitious than ultraviolent scenes of torture and murder
>you can show romantic interest and just imply they fucked offscreen
and you can just imply someone died offscreen too

Because mutts hate sex.

>no one goes on a twitter soapbox over violence.
That's just incorrect.
Then download porn games.
Fucking retard.

It is kind of weird how you can joke about murder even though it's objectively the worst thing you can do to someone, but joking about rape is off limits

Porn almost serves no story purpose. It doesn't advance the story to watch someone coom inside of a woman when an implication of it already is enough. Its why in most entertainment sex either is shown to just start or at the end when they're cooming. Also Rape has very few applications to advance story and most writers aren't comfortable writing it because it can be fucked up really bad really easily. Rape is also seen as inherently worse than death because you're taking agency from someone and they have to live their life with that consequence.

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Quick reminder that if you play videogames where you kill people then you are a murderer, and should go to jail. It's no different than sexualizing underage fictional characters.

Ah yeah perfect, every assassination in Hitman? Just pan the camera away, bro.
The violence serves the gameplay. Two 3D models rubbing together does literally nothing for the gameplay, and most likely serves the plot very little as well.
Don't be fucking retarded.

>That's just incorrect.
Are you seriously going to imply twitterfags and journalists moan about violence in equal amounts to sex? What purpose does deliberately lying serve?

Rape jokes aren't really funny to begin with. Its funny to joke about JFK's head exploding, it's really not that funny to talk about someone (especially if they're still alive) being raped.

Because despite nihilists saying everything is permissable in games it isn't. There is a moral line people won't be comfortable crossing. It used to be that games would be very cartoons or you'd be given a reason for the violence you were doing to make it more palatable to the player. Over time that barrier to killing innocent virtual people has been eroded down and indeed encouraged because ameridumbs love shock violence. But if you show a tit or a sexy woman in a sexy outfit or imply rape the ameridumb mind seizes up.
They talk a lot about how everything is permitted because it's not real but ameridumbs are hypocrites and retards who police sexualisation from media but in turn increase schlock violence against innocents.
I wouldn't be surprised if a whole ameridumb generation has been conditioned to get sexually turned on by murder because of their fucked up society.
Honestly I just think if America got nuked the whole world would get better over night.
Here's hoping Putin does us all a favour lmao.

This caused a lot of controversy, also the game had sex and nudity in it.

instead of going on multi paragraph tangent about video games not being movies, im just gonna not

>Are you seriously going to imply twitterfags and journalists moan about violence in equal amounts to sex?
Did I fucking say that, you schizo sperg?
>What purpose does deliberately lying serve?
Shut the fuck up, retard, I'm not going to humor your bullshit if you're just going to try to pull this nonsense.

I assumed it was about sadism. One can murder for a good cause and hate it but its hard to noblely commit rape. No self defence. No just war. No accidental. Its just an incongruous comparison

joking about either is pretty insensitive

You change the word to "porn" in attempt to minimize it. The topic is sex and rape. Rape absolutely serves story material. So does sex.
> It doesn't advance the story to watch someone coom inside of a woman when an implication of it already is enough
It doesn't advance the story to watch someone put a bullet inside of someone when an implication of it already is enough
>rape has few applications to advance story
unwanted birth, revenge, trauma, etc? it serves plenty

>it can be fucked up!
>writers just dont do it!
you see, these are not arguements. "its bad because its bad!". this is circular logic friend

People like violence. People don't like rape. Rape isn't absent from games though, it's just implied. For example, Serana from Skyrim's dawnguard expansion was alluded to having been raped near to death by Molag Bal (or a different daedra I confused for Molag Bal). But rape scenes just aren't enjoyable.

because murder is almost understandable. depending on who you murder, you could get away with it and it would be socially acceptable. people killing each other is as old as cain and abel. it's essentially expected that sometimes people are going to kill each other, and if people feel like you had good enough reason, they sometimes don't even care when you kill somebody. heck, you can theoretically murder someone for selfless reasons. rape is different. you are taking something from another person that they should only be able to give and there isn't really any situations it can possibly be justified, it just makes you a freak who doesn't care about another person so much you take them over in the most gross, personal way possible. there's just a difference between putting a knife in someone and putting your dick in them.

Spoken like a true redditor. neck yourself.

There aren't as many examples of sex gameplay because of retards like you getting upset over it. But when you look at porn games there is absolutely potential for sex and sexual activities to lend themselves to gameplay.

You can't cover up something like shooting in Hitman, but you can outright ban the creation/sale of such a game in the first place, remove blood, change bullets to rubber ducks, etc

this, it's just mutts being mutts
kill them all and the problem will be solved, along with a host of other things wrong with the world

rape serves a good purpose. I remember seeing the rape scene in The Sopranos and I was quite shocked desu.

>Rape absolutely serves story material. So does sex.
Graphically displaying sex and rape does nothing to further the plot. Explicit sex is for coombrains, and explicit rape is for shock. It's cheap and unneeded.
Can murder and torture also be for shock? Yeah, absolutely, and I don't care much for it when it is. But they can also be used as methods of exploring character, so I'm more likely to listen.
>It doesn't advance the story to watch someone put a bullet inside of someone when an implication of it already is enough
It can, though. You're being stupid. How someone behaves during and after the act of killing someone is very revealing about their character.
>unwanted birth, revenge, trauma, etc? it serves plenty
You can have literally all of these things without explicitly displaying rape.

>Did I fucking say that,
>imply
Try reading. And yes you did imply it. When the things your words imply are written out explicitly even you can realize how utter retarded it sounds right?

Saying "just do it" doesn't help your argument either. Thats also circular logic. People say its bad because we've had plenty of bad stories that utilized it as a crutch. Its shock value. Its upfront and horrific. I can't believe I have to write this to someone who's underaged but it legitimately isn't going to help your story unless its about the topic of rape. Never did I say you CANT do it, it just isn't popular because of society deeming it as uncomfortable or that when doing the subject matter it can be done poorly and used as nothing more than a flash.

Suck my cock faggot. If you have nothing to contribute then why post?

>if you show sex its for "coombrains"
>but if you show violence it isnt for psycopaths no you cant make that equivalent argument heh heh its just to advance the story am I right fellow redditors
kill yourself

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>rape serves a good purpose
Im calling the authorities.

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WHOA SUCK YOUR COCK THATS LIKE A RAPE JOKE DUDE I DONT WANT TO THATS FUCKED UP (ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE ALIVE)
when you draw arbitrary lines like this nothing is sacred anymore. like I said, neck yourself retard.

>When I put words in your mouth to make you sound like a dishonest retard, do you see how much of a dishonest retard you sound like?
Shut the fuck up, moron.
That wasn't explicitly depicted.
Video games have had implied and mentioned rape for a long time. That isn't what the thread is about. OP is talking about straight-up showing a girl getting dicked against her will like a hardcore porno.

You do realize that people fuck, and not just kill, right? In fact I'd bet we do a lot more fucking than killing or torture. Saying that violence can further a plotline while sex cannot just makes me think that your puritanism is showing. Both have equal potential to be either a driving plot element or just pure spectacle, but we're conditioned to consider one to be more vulgar than the other.

Mutt values.
Nip games were the other way until Commiefornia assumed direct control.
>sex good
>violence bad

Would like to have a word

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Who says it has to be justifiable? You can't even show an unambiguously evil character committing rape.

Rape is fucked up, that's why I murder women before I rape them

You're retarded. I never said sex can't further a plotline. Holy fuck, you people are genuinely stupid and can't read.
I said EXPLICIT sex, as in, the media just turns into hardcore porn for a few minutes, serves nothing except the desires of those watching it.

Graphically displaying murder and torture does nothing to further the plot.
>ccombrain
Meaningless insults are not arguments, nor are then even premises in logical arguments.
>its cheap and unneeded
So it violence, blood, gore, and torture. Video games and movies and sugar and candy are all unneeded. We do thing to entertain ourselves and forget about our sad mortality.
>explicit rape is for shock
so, like torture, it can serve a purpose to the plot and the audience?
rape and sex can also be used to explore a character.
>it can though.
I just copied your post to make you see how stupid what you wrote is, but you were to dumb to see that. I agree, showing the murder adds something to evoking emotion and character development. But that is equally true for sex and rape. It is just foolish and purposefully ignorant to say yes for one and no to the other.
>you can have all of these things without explicitly showing it
and you can have all of them without explicitly displaying murder and torture. but to use your own point above, showing it adds something does it not?

name 1 situation where torture is justified

You play overwatch, maybe turn yourself in first

>showing it adds something does it not?
Tell me what seeing the penis entering the vagina on-screen does for your engagement with the plot.

i think rape is funny actually

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nigga are you actually insane?

But I never said "just do it", I simply questioned the poor logic of allowing A but not B, especially when A is obviously a worse thing than B. I use logic and reason. There's a difference
>weve had bad stories with sex and rape
weve had bad stories with murder and torture
>its shock value. upfront and horrific
so is gore and torture

>ugh i cant believe i have to make you underage appeal to my emotions ugh why cant my screaming be enough who cares about logic
lol

Why don't you inform me what it is you think I'm arguing against, because I have the strong feeling that you think I'm against sex in media as a whole, and I want to set that straight.

>this thread

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