The evil illuminati conspiracy group that controlled the world turned out to be the loveable comic relief characters...

>the evil illuminati conspiracy group that controlled the world turned out to be the loveable comic relief characters you spoke to on the radio from the previous game.
what the fuck was kojima thinking?

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>was 15 when this game came out
>literally gasped and went "holy shit" when this twist was revealed

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>You will never get pre MGSV kojimbo ever again

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>You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the bad guy.

I want to believe this was supposed to be Kojima's Springtime for Hitler and he was deliberately trying to tank his own franchise but I don't think he's clever enough for that.

>Support team that was operating on a massive conspiracy in 1964 went on to work on more massive conspiracies
Gee

No idea.
Having all the original creators just be dead and the patriot AI still going on its own would have been a lot better.
Bringing back big boss was also fucking retarded.

NOW can people stop saying this was bad just because "PS3" and "gen 7"?

it was kino

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Still better than what he did to Raiden, Meryl, and Johnny. I lol'd when Raiden first contacts Snake about the landmines. He just sounds so fucking stupid with that tough guy voice.

There's a lot of decisions in MGS4 that seem to be borne out of spite towards the fanbase, just the fact that this is a game about Snake being a dying old man who can barely stand up should be telling enough.

/lick

He wanted to stop after MGS2, but they made him do 3. If MGS4 wasn't him trying to end his own franchise for good, I don't know what is. Unfortunately his fanbase would just make up head canons that this has a crazy alternative meaning for the future so that would never work since he's Kojima. Same thing would happen if Suda51 decided to release NMH4 as a means to intentionally tanking the franchise, but his fan base will believe it has some higher meaning and demand a sequel.

This game was so fucking cozy

>ocelot was just pretending to be the villain so snake could be a hero

He was thinking
> I don’t like Hayter so imma make him cough for the whole game

There's stuff like that but there's also an equal amount of hollow, totally meaningless fanservice (I recognized Psycho Mantis!) that would appease only the kind of person he would be insulting with the other stuff. So I dunno.

MGS peaked with snake eater

>people still seething over MGS4’s story even though it’s obviously a parody of the franchise
How are you people this fucking stupid?

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It’s still sucks even as a parody, retard. The fact people can’t even tell if it’s taking itself seriously or not speaks volumes to how incompetent kojima is

I played the game, and i gotta say, it was so weird in terms of plot that instead of dropping the game, i continued playing it. It was an incredible experience.

I dunno about the others but Sigint being Donald Anderson was alluded to since MGS3.