Who is the Dark Moon and what is the age of stars? Does Ranni want to bring about another Outer God or is it supposed to symbolize the world being free from the Greater Will and other Outer Gods.
We know Radahn wanted to learn gravity magic because of his horse. But why did he go as far as trapping the falling stars? Did someone ask him to do it or did he have his own reasons?
Who really is the Lord of Night? Is he possibly the same as the Dark Moon?
Radagon/Marika - were they always one or did they become one, if so why?
Where does the lore come from about Elden Ring coming from space? The Elden Beast description doesn't really suggest that, even if it would make sense.
Who is the Gloam-eyed queen? Do the apostles wear skin of actual gods? All the gods we know don't seem to have been killed by them, unless we count some unkown extended family of the main players as gods as well.
Pretty sure Ranni just brings about a new God, since there are even spells that come from nim. It just might be that he might be more rolling to give people a Free hand and let people guide them.
Robert Martin
the age of the stars probably means the worlds natural order, the elden ring and the golden order is like the matrix where the holder of elden ring can rewrite how the world works through the golden order
well thats how i saw it
Elijah Brooks
There’s definitely another Eldritch beast involved with the moon. Ranni may think her age is one of freedumbs, but it actually only replaces one alien overlord with another.
Ethan Perry
The Greater Will gets BTFO and Moon Presence takes over, we're going back brothers
Sebastian Price
The Dark Moon is her personal crest. At no point is it ever even remotely implied to be anything else. The Age of Stars is all the Ayys get kept in the stars and can't fuck about with the Lands between, but this is hard to figure from the ending we got because the translation is fucking awful in this game.
The description for the Ranni's Dark Moon spell notes that Ranni's teacher warned her to fear the Dark Moon. As such, the Dark Moon is probably an outer god. Based on the messed up things done by the mages, such as trying to discern/create "fates" anyway a la the Greater Will, turning people into monster orbs a la Sellen, turning into stones and dying a la Azur and Lusat (and said stones seem to make up each Astel's body), and even perhaps human sacrifices (the reward for helping Aurelia and her sister, who are ghosts, is a bloody Glintstone talisman that notes sorcerers would kill people to make stronger talismans), the Dark Moon is likely a serious threat to the Lands Between.
Additionally, while Ranni says she killed her physical form to escape "fate", the blade used to kill her Two Fingers can only be wielded by someone with a "fate", thus meaning she doesn't have the freedom she thinks she does. As such, despite Ranni's hopes, the Dark Moon will likely be an oppressive, exploitative force upon the Lands Between.
Charles Martinez
Ranni's ending got absolutely buttfucked in the translation
Bentley Morales
It's clearly stated that the Dark Moon is an actual entity.
Andrew Taylor
No it doesn't.
Dylan Butler
Didn't someone in that same thread (or the one after it) point out that her sentence can be translated as "think of the Spring as far off?"
Noah King
How do you explain mistranslating this: >The moon was encountered by a young Ranni, left by the hand of her mother, Rennala. What she beheld was cold, dark and veiled in occult mystery.
Dark Moon is clearly an entity, not just a concept.
>Ranni Souls are still bound to the Moon order under her rule, but it's a distant thing, note dominating like the Golden Order. Dark Moon might be a god, since the previous orders had their own Gods too, but the implication is that it's far removed. You can see the Dark Moon from the lunar plateau, along with the normal one. Either way, it's probably the best ending, with Golden Masks math nerd ending being the other candidate.
>Radahn Falling stars aren't nice, arresting their movement probably stops a lot of that shit. That or he was just flexing and fucking over Ranni during the shattering.
>Radagon/Marika They have always been connected. Marika knows in advance that Radagon is going to become [part of] her, so there's that. Whether they started as separate beings with connection, or one being that was split and then rejoined, is unknown.
>Gloam Eyed Queen We dunno who she was. All we know is she was an Empyrean that got fucked by Malekith. Could be Marika, could be Melania, could be Ranni (very very unlikely though) or could be someone else entirely. Maybe DLC bait.
Melina is probably the Gloam-eyed Queen. They have pretty similar motives and we see her open her eye in the Frenzied God ending.
Dylan Bell
lol no.
Jose Morales
>Either way, it's probably the best ending, with Golden Masks math nerd ending being the other candidate. I didn't get this one either. How can a the elden ring be modified to create a world without gods, when they are the ones who created the Elden Ring and set the rules themselves. On top of that his rune wasn't created but found. Fuckin where?
Mason Bell
The system can be turned against the creators to make them have to follow its rules. Also, Goldmask likely invented the rune from his research and his own soul.
Tyler Price
I think Ranni ultimately wants to free the world from outside influence and separate the great powers (life, souls, fate) so people/gods can't meddle with and control them, but given the heavy implications that the Greater Will is(/is from) the sun I find it hard to believe the moon isn't just another OG. Maybe she/we become Moon Presence in that thousand years.
There's no solid explanation for why Radahn became Starscourge, but I think it most likely that he did it on behalf of the Greater Will. Radahn idolised his father, Radagon was the devout one and led the Golden Order, and the Greater Will feared the (other) stars, so it would make sense that they put him up to it. Since Miquella seems also opposed to the Greater Will, it would explain why Malenia went so hard against him. I think this is also why Radagon warred with then married Renalla; she was the stargazer who ultimately could have found the truth or found another OG who opposed the Greater Will, so they sent Radagon to stop her. Also why Ranni's fingers remained active and hunted her while the other demigods' were just abandoned.
Since all their children have some level of duality I think the duality is inherent within Marika/Radagon. Might also have something to do with their heavy connection to the Erdtree/Greater Will.
People just apply space because these are unfathomable eldritch beings and it makes the most sense, also the connection with the sun. Them coming from the bingus dimension would pretty much be the same thing anyway. It's just kind of clear that they're beyond the mortal realm.
From what I understand the gloam-eyed queen was a god-killer from an age far beyond our knowledge. She went on a god-killing spree then Marika defeated her and locked her powers away in Mariketh, partially so they couldn't be used and maybe so she could use them for herself when the time came.
>Golden Masks math nerd ending being the other candidate I dunno about that, the solution to the flaw of the Golden Order heavily implies removing emotions so the world after that would be incredibly robotic.
David Fisher
gloam eyed queen wasn't an empyrean what the fuck are you smoking
Daniel Stewart
Lol. This just goes to further disprove you Dark Moon = god retards. How can Rennala "leave" a fucking god for her daughter? A god isn't a fucking book or ham sandwich
Landon Davis
He probably did create it. When the mask speaks of the ring he'll find I don't think that explicitly means he stumbled across it somewhere, just that that was the endpoint of his research.
Jackson Flores
The thing is, even if the Dark Moon is an Outer God, Outer Gods are highly limited in what they can do to effect the Lands Between. They need agents, which is why the Greater Will needs Marika/Radagon and the Two Fingers. If Ranni isn't interfering, it would severely limit what the Dark Moon could even do. And given she's pretty up front about her plan, you'd think the Dark Moon would choose an agent that was far more meddlesome if it wanted to meddle.
Austin Thompson
Is Malenia really dead ? no screen like "Enemy felled", she just disperse in multiple rot butterfly, we come back to another flower, it could be that she bloom again for the third time. >DLC the 'Empyrean duo' boss with 4 phases, each AoE 25 hit slash.
Zachary Lee
>How can Rennala "leave" a fucking god for her daughter? A god isn't a fucking book or ham sandwich Maybe not with that attitude
The same way a retarded zombie demigod can still hold the stars in place
Hunter Ward
I'm having a hard time figuring out the structure of the game's universe. So there's the Lands Between which has a sky filled with stars, implying there's space out there, but in the opening we're shown that the world outside of the Lands Between is nothing but gray fog, which has always been Miyazaki's go-to description of the realm of non-existence.
