I just hate how anti-souls the boss fights are Enemies have nonstop tracking combos. You can't roll INTO attacks anymore because as soon as you roll they will instantly 360 and hit you behind their back, so you have to actually dodge the entire combo chain. This kills the entire dark souls gameplay of slow, tactical combat that revolves around rolling into attacks (well this style died in DS3 but still)
What is even worse: If you have a slow weapon you may find that despite dodging all hits in a combo, you are unable to punish the boss, because your attack's windup is longer than it takes for the boss to start a new combo. This is absolutely disgusting and inexcusable. I am yet to find a melee only build that does not rely solely on weapon arts OR jump+r2. It's like normal hits are not a thing anymore. You can barely get away with normal hits in the open world (at later areas).
After playing a lot of Elden Ring I just booted Dark Souls and found a much more fun game all around.
Oh and don't get me wrong the game has many strengths, especially in the open world formula which is the best one ever made. But I feel like I'm suffering through the combat instead of enjoying it.
I haven't played it but the jump seems kind of broken. I don't see how it doesn't become the most optimal way to doge anything instantly
Jaxon Carter
One thing is for jump to be a good tactic Another thing is for r1 or r2 to be completely unviable, FORCING you to cheese the boss with jump or with weapon arts (or with summons...) I just wanted the DS experience of rolling through attacks and laying my 3 hits until the boss went ded
>before release NOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU RELEASING DARK SOULS 4 >after release NOOOOOO WHY ARENT YOU DARK SOULS 4
Adrian Jenkins
im fine with this, mario literally reuses all of the enemies and its a goat game
Jayden Long
>get shit on by boss >make this thread to cope with your lack of skill
every time
Lucas Evans
ER reuses them and they are also shit though
Nicholas Jones
In these ER cope threads it's important to remember that legitimately over 80% of people playing ER have not touched a Dark Souls title in their life. It more than quadrupled player counts from DS3, of which it is practically the successor gameplay wise, so most of the seething is people sucking ass at a type of game that they misjudged completely. Also DS1's combat was OK for the time but would be clunky and outdated now, it's never coming back.
Noah Morris
>If you have a slow weapon you may find that despite dodging all hits in a combo, you are unable to punish the boss
Is there shit that increases attack speed in this game?
Brody Collins
All of this started with Artorias back in DS1's dlc. I called it Artorias Syndrome I called that boss absolute trash, but no one believed me. I had thought that From learned their lesson anyway, and made fights mostly better in DS2 and 3, but there was still occasional Artorias Syndrome. But here we are. A whole game full of Artoriases. you said that he was the best fight in the series, so here you go.
Ryder Smith
What i found to work is staying in midrange of a boss, running away from any big combos, and then dodging into the boss on the last hit of the combo. It is kinda how i fought Friede in her third phase. Im convinced that dodging all hits of a combo is not even possible most of the time, since many of them hit so fast, that you cant roll quick enough to avoid getting hit.
Brody Lopez
You're just awful at the game sorry. I cleared every boss in 5 tries or less, including doing Rennala on my first attempt, barely with 10% HP and no heals left.
Ryan Perez
Jump attack is so viable as an evasive maneuver that it carried me through the Crucible Knight's second phase. Any combo-finishing, low sweeping move is an opening to jump attack I feel.
Jackson Wilson
Because bosses have lots of attacks that are downward slams that hit far above them so it'll hit you and pancake you. Jumps are only good if you know the boss moves and know a sweep or thrust is coming up.
Also useful in PvP to punish heals and casters but jump attacks are risky if the player knows how to space them w/o even rolling.
I guarantee that all of you talking shit fall within one of the following scenarios >didn't get to endgame, where all I reported gets significantly worse >used magic >used summons or co-op >abused jump+r2 or weapon arts I bet none of you tried to beat bosses solo through sheer rolling and normal r1/r2. And by the way I am trying this with a katana, can't even imagine what the life of a strfag feels like. >hurr why don't you jump+r2 or weapon art, it's in the game it should be used Because this works by staggering the boss, and that feels like cheating.
Charged attacks are far better at staggering than R2s, you just need to space and plan them well.
Something like a Claymore charged R2 thrust with the charged attack boosting talisman and the charge attack booting buff drink fucking nukes bosses and comes out surprisingly fast, I can do one behind a boss after the boss does his combo/slam.
Jaxon Howard
Dexfag bitching about slow big hit weapons. Youre dex get a dagger, hand axe, bow or rapier and stfu
Nathaniel Foster
Yeah STR sucks. Your weapon is so slow you get 1 attack off maximum meanwhile dexfags can hit 5x in the same window and build up bleed. Bosses attack for too long and can also instant cancel their attack animations and flip around 180 like it's nothing. This means you spend huge amounts of time just walking and dodging, waiting for your turn.
Nolan Cooper
I already completed the game with a pure melee build You're just a shitter, git gud
Jayden Morgan
Or a Katana like a real DexFag
Jonathan Moore
>Skyrim shitted on Dark Souls >Dragon Age: Inquisition shitted on Dark Souls 2 >The Witcher 3 shitted on Bloodborne >Overwatch shitted on Dark Souls 3 (lol) >Sekiro won against a movie game and a remake Miyazaki is a hack. Soi of War will destroy this shitgame.
Aaron Price
You’re all a bunch of know-nothing anti-souls pussies.
>I already completed the game with a pure melee build Not what I said. Did you use jump+r2 or weapon arts?
Sebastian Perez
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST USE MOVES THAT ARE IN THE GAME >NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STAGGER THE BOSS THAT'S CHEATING Why are you stupid retards so autistic?
Logan Sanders
Being able to do it is one thing Being forced to do it is another I just wanted the classic souls playstyle, is that asking too much?
Christopher Lee
>talking shit ah hahaha. WE are the ones talking shit. You weak niggers should all go back to red dit or discord or your own faggot threads for homos on this board. leave elden ring alone.
Chase Sanchez
>none of you tried to arbitrarily limit yourself to this one very specific self imposed way of playing that disregards a whole bunch of game mechanics so you can't tell me I'm retarded You're retarded.
Kevin Wilson
See The go play all the other souls games retard
Kayden Myers
Ubishit and FIFA sell like water too.
Camden Ramirez
>OP complains, specifically, about how you can't just roll and r1/r2 bosses, that you're forced to cheese them by staggering with weapon arts or jump+r2 >HA YOU SUCK AT THE GAME I BEAT IT BY CHEESING IT WITH WEAPON ARTS AND JUMP+R2, TAKE THAT >NOOO WHAT YOU MEAN THAT DOESN'T COUNT
