...I'm sorry, but why is this considered mentally taxing? It's about as "scarring" as pretending a guy holding a toy gun will somehow fire real bullets.
...I'm sorry, but why is this considered mentally taxing...
Noah Stewart
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Juan Reyes
they sometimes have their evokers swapped out with real guns just to keep them on edge
Nathan Thomas
did they mention in game whether it actually feels like shooting yourself in the head or not? because maybe that's why
William Thomas
It gives the sensation of being shot in the head. Would you like to try it? Also summoning a Persona for the first time is incredibly risky in 3.
Brody Russell
Who would be the first to die to this if this actually happened?
Matthew Nguyen
I know it's normal for americans to have gun pointed on them and that the risk of being shot is always present, but do you really not understand that doing this makes you feel uneasy?
Adrian Howard
Almost as if it isn’t like pointing a toy gun at your head
Jordan Ortiz
>OH NO. I HAVE TO POINT THIS GLORIFIED TOY GUN AT MY FACE AND PULL THE TRIGGER TO FIRE A NON-EXISTENT BULLET I KNOW WON'T GET FIRED. THE HORROR.
It is.
Justin Young
conceptually kill yourself retard, metaphorically an hero
Oliver Walker
Why are mainlinesecondaries like this
Jose Hughes
Get help if you are scared of toy guns, user.
Cooper Johnson
It symbolises ego death and isn’t something the conscious mind would want to do.
Joseph Rodriguez
Stupei
Kevin Hall
>This is what P3fags are scared of
Justin Hill
I think it is briefly explained that it does feel that way. Even after the first time. They just get used to it in order to do it in battle
Josiah Martin
Thread to out people who haven't played the game.
It is made clear that the Evokers are created to be 1:1 replicas to real guns and using them evokes the sensation of actually shooting yourself, that's exactly why they work. Summoning a Persona requires undergoing an extremely stressful life or death ocurrence, so having to shoot yourself in the head with a blank gun while being surrounded by monsters is about as stressful as it could get- That's why characters like Yukari and others show extreme fear when first using it but get accustomed to it throughout the game, while characters like Mitsuru and Akihiko are desensitized to it. Even their battle animations and the way they use the Evoker showcase how comfortable each character is with the method
Andrew Lewis
I’m glad P4 made the switch to just smashing cards, this was extremely retarded
Ayden Foster
More like S.E.E.T.H.E.S.
Hunter Russell
P3
>you need to metaphorically kill yourself to summon your persona
P4
>you need to break a card to summon your persona
P5
>you need to rip off your mask to show your true self and summon your persona
Nicholas Parker
Nah, it was edgy and cool. Or in zoomer vernacular, it was cringekino. The card format doesn't represent much of anything, and they realised this with 5's mask thing, but it's used to much lesser effect.
Christopher Bell
Even without the symbolism aspect, the way they work mechanically is by taking a sliver of living Shadow material, which is what a Plume of Dusk basically is, and shooting it into your brain to forceably bring out your Persona. It's extremely mentally and emotionally taxing because they're doing it effectively in real life, as opposed to a completely different world like in P4 and P5 where it's a lot easier. P4U explicitly brings up the differences, and even with the process being easier it's still taxing enough that P4 and P5 characters conk out after summoning theirs for the first time.
In all three games, SP is supposed to represent the character's mental stamina.
Sebastian Jackson
>2009+13
>halfwits still fail to grasp the basic concept of memento mori
Parker Bennett
but that would mean that it wouldn't be stressful since they've done it so many times and are aware that it cannot actually kill them. evokers are cool but they make absolutely no sense
Connor Green
>P4 is still the best game with the best cast
Nathaniel Martinez
I was hoping that Mr Jee wiz was gonna use his real gun to shoot himself and get a more powerful persona. Too bad he was a let down.
Zachary Thompson
Naoto and Kanji don't make up for everybody else.
Wish they'd go back to having at least semi-fleshed out protagonists too, instead of the absolute blank slate shit.
Kayden Gutierrez
P2 is the only time they did that, and only because both protags appear as non-protags in the other's game. I guess you can also count Aigis in The Answer but again, she was already an established character. Atlus games in general always have blank slate protags as a general rule.
Blake Davis
Why did P4/5 move away from this to just "hmm yea i magically bring my stand out lol"