>typical time to beat elden ring with varying numbers of deaths >50-85~ hours >$60 >one race, 10 uninspired classes >magic, summons, dex build, faith build, good weapon etc. is “cheating”. >glorified rhythm game (dodge at the right time to win) >chokes and dies on modern pcs >formulaic normieshit
>typical time to beat frogcomposband (or any ZAngband variant) without dying once >50-150 hours >$0 >plethora of races with sub races and even races that evolve over leveling, myriad of classes that fit many roles including traditional classes, hybrids, originals and many wildcards, not to mention personalities and monster races which allow hundreds of builds and playstyles >an extremely small minority of builds can be considered “cheating”, such as munchkin demigod >open world turn-based grid-based roguelike for enlightened individuals >can run on a toaster >underground gem
Dark Souls fags claim their shit is hard but when you beat it easily they sure like to backpedal on that difficulty >bro you weren't supposed to use that build >bro you weren't supposed to use that weapon >bro you weren't supposed to the boss like that No wonder it's one of the biggest normie draws right now
roguelikes are kino even non-roguelikes but ASCII based are kino, dwarf fortress both in adventure and fortress mode are so much kino
For me its nethack though
Jackson Allen
I would put the typical time for winning Frog at 20 - 30 hours, you fucking casual.
James King
I've got hundreds of hours in some Cave games and they consistently take 30 minutes to beat start to finish. That's just going for 1-alls. I don't play Dark Souls or Elden Ring, but it's not really a good argument to say a game is bad because it has a short playthrough.
Aaron Wilson
>20-30 lmao if you can't win pcb in less than 10 you don't know what you're doing
Isaiah Cox
I wish somebody would make a modern game with the same kind of format as bands, centralized town+dungeon now go find the loot. There are some but it seems to have fallen out of favor.
Jaxon Myers
I confess, my fastest time is 11 hours, tell me your secrets
>I've got hundreds of hours in some Cave games and they consistently take 30 minutes to beat start to finish. That's just going for 1-alls. Kill yourself you fucking autistic retard
Mason Rivera
It's called Diablo III, Grim Dawn, Path of Exile, etc.