If you summon human players, have you "really" beaten the game?

If you summon human players, have you "really" beaten the game?

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who cares? kys

meh I pirated it so I can't even if I wanted

No but games are meant to be fun before anything else so who cares if people enjoy doing that, at least it's better than watching streamers beat the game for them

dark souls is a choose your own difficulty game, its fine.

Just invade them and kill them if you're so mad.

no
if you used magic, bow, consumables, shield, summons
you just fooled yourself
I'd even argue about leveling up but people aren't ready for this discussion right now.

If you don't summon a jellyfish, have you "really" beaten the game?

If I've reached the credits I've beaten the game. Simple as.

Sure you did, it's just lame to do it that way.

I'm here for the cool looking loot and exploration with a mild sense of peril. Not got the time to commit the bosses little patterns to memory so I'll summon and enjoy taking turns pushing their shit in with my jolly cooperators

I've had a lot of fun bulldozing through boss fights with my spirit friends. If nothing else that's what matters the most :)

Absolutely kinglike.
Have frens, have fun.
If you're miserable playing, don't.

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Kill yourself

Why the fuck would they spend dev time on stuff you're not supposed to use?

it's akin to handing the controller to a friend. no one would honestly say "i didn't beat the game cus i killed some of the bosses and my friend killed a few too". if you get to the end, you beat it

it says boss defeated
I won

>not allowed to summon
>not allowed to use magic
>not allowed to use bows
>not allowed to use shields
Why?

I don't care. I like beating the game without summons.

Summoning another player is not playing the game and is in fact pay to win.

This is simply logical
>Pirate game (ie free)
>Cannot summon other players
>Pay for game ($60?)
>Can Summon


Therefore it is pay to win garbage. Everything else in the game is 100% valid.

Maybe the elden ring was the friends we made along the way

>play the game on my own using only jellyfish summon if i feel like it

>rain stormveil castle with the boys when we're all online

having a blast, highly recommend this to all others.

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Autismos like to use a shitload of made up rules because its "fair". Its a way of coping with their actual low skills irl. See smash as an example.