Wretch is unoptimal

Trying to RP in a fucking souls game is even more autistic than minmaxing.

What is it if you aren't a minmaxer or a roleplayer

Perfect. Another reason to pick it.

Imagine being a min maxing soiboy at the beginning of the apocalypse.

Based

I'm not watching that video and I'm on phone right now so can't even see the title without clicking on it but isn't that the point? It's the challenge run that starts with shit gear and low stats

Always has been.

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I like picking deprived and its equivalents on the first playthrough because starting out with a full set of armor and a proper weapon kinda makes progression feel pointless

for me it's prisoner bc of the drip helmet frfr litty sheesh

I'm not watching your video. Imagine caring about stats.

>unoptimal.
literally never made an effort to optimize any of my toons in any of the dark souls games and still wrecked scrubs in pvp on the regular

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Fantastic, now I can play it without feeling like a redditor.

>minmaxing in a single player game

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>unoptimal
>I still end up going full str anyway
I fucking hate min/max pvp faggots

Hope I can find that helmet somewhere in the game for my Wretch.

>AAAAGH I NEED TO MIN MAX THIS SINGPLAYER GAME, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE FUN
What a fucking retard.

Wretch is the only blank slate, so that's the only choice. Fuck playing pre-made characters.

The community around these games is one of the gayest around

DEPRIVED for optimal respect midgame = maximum game enjoy

Don't care, not watching your video.

>being a pvp autist in souls games
lmaoing@you

Why is it unoptimal

>games not even out
>people are already looking up guides
Absolutely pathetic

For me, it's making a Confessor and naming him after famous church anti-semites.

Souls is literally built for roleplaying wtf do you mean

Probably because of the stat allocation.

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I love how people think souls is hardcore.

Because autistic Soulsfags feel the need to plan their entire playthrough before the game is even out

Why?

Don't care, i'll pick a class at random and play however the fuck i want.

a first time player

Oh boy I cant wait to see what role-playing experience Das souls iiii will have this time around!
>silent retard that just fights everything

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY DPS IS ONLY 158 AND NOT 159

You can respec at any time. Muh optimal builds are pointless

but iit starts at level one so you can surpass every class in every stat

>wretch is unoptimal
Which is why I'm picking wretch, I want to fight an uphill battle on my first playthrough.

Souls games reward specialization. Imagine there were only 3 stats. Strength, Magic, Dex.

Wretch : 10, 10, 10
Strengthguy : 20, 0, 10

If the Wretch wants to make a Strength build, it takes him +10 levels to match what Strengthguy does. At the end of the game/where the PVP meta settles, let's say it's level 90, Strengthguy will be the better Strength build and he has no wasted points in Magic, a stat that Strength builds do not need.

Because Wretches have 10 in *every stat*, they have a ton of wasted points. If you don't care about PVP, and you don't care about restricting your end game level, then it doesn't matter.

>Why would it even matter for PVP?
Souls games historically base who can invade you off of your Soul Level. This means autistic retards who calculated and planned out every single point of their build ahead of time to have 0 waste will be much more powerful than a casual player who made a "jack of all trades" character to use a bunch of different weapons/armors/spells for fun. The difference can be pretty crazy (like getting one shotted).

I'll just roleplay gigawretch and hexedit all my stats to 30.

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Sir, this is a shitpost thread. Please do not put well thought out replies here.

Except you can't,

>HELP ME NIGGERMAN!!!! I LOST 3 LEVELS!!! I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAAA!!!!

>singleplayer
no friends?

The game isn't even out yet and you're already minmaxing?

it's level 1. first 10 levels are free. if you count stat allocation of other classes it's not a big difference.

Imagine not going into a new game completely blind. All i saw was the first gameplay reveal. If you're already looking up items to plan builds and shit, you need to touch grass

Well it's a good thing I made my peace with sucking at souls PVP ages ago and actively avoid it. Thanks for the lesson though

No bitches?

No shit, it's wretch

damn I guess I should just go vagabond if I'm planning on str/fth

diminishing returns, you'd lose 10pt of damage at worst

But the difference is there, so wretch isn't optimal and that was the point.

This. To each their own anyway.

The problem is that the journos and ingame description is misleading. Anyone familiar with souls games knows the wretch is just a challenge run. It literally has the least optimal stats for any given build, including hybrids. And it also starts with the shittiest of all gear.

It's a shame they can't give us a real blank slate, like something with say 7 in everything, and then you choose your stats up until level 1. But of course then no-one would play anything but that, so obviously that doesn't work either.

That's the idea
Imagine minmaxing in a singleplayer game

Reminder if you play wretch and give your troon hair you need to dilate.

>Wretch : 10, 10, 10
>Strengthguy : 20, 0, 10

It's more like

Wretch : 10, 10, 10
Strengthguy : 12,8, 10

or by the time you're even half way through the game

Wretch : 30, 10, 20
Strengthguy : 32,8, 20

A few points dont matter. You get diminishing returns eventually anyway.

It will take the Wretch less levels to hit 99 in all stats than every other class.

Wretch is most optimal. PERIOD.

Does the lower starting level not make up for those allocations?

Heh, as if anyone is such a nolifer that they'd play the game THAT much, now you're just being silly.

imagine caring for souls pvp

hero for example ahs 10 pts under ten, is it's basically minus 10 levels if you want to build similar to hero stat allocation by end game, that's decently big

The game is built around atmospheric exploration of a fantasy world. You're encouraged to roleplay an adventurer naturally. For DaS1 anyway.