Chrono Cross

I don't care if it's bad as a sequel, I never played Trigger. All that matters to me is if it's good on it's own. So how does it hold up against other SE JRPGs, Any Forums?

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>SE
much better
>SS
average

All I remember is playing it back in the day and having fun with it, but not playing trigger probably is gonna make the story really difficult to follow.

This might wind up being the ugliest remaster ever made.

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they're coming, the Trigger babbies, I can hear their onions tiers.

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Haven't played in 20 years, but off the top of my head, here's what I remember without slipping into spoilers:
>spells and special attacks are intended for use once per battle, and available again for the next battle
>they also have color-coded affinities (as do the characters themselves, red vs (as in strong against/weak to) blue, green vs yellow, black vs white
>arranging a sequence of like-colored attacks (the enemies also have an effect on this) will affect the battlefield itself, i.e. three blues in a row will make the field blue-affinity, enhancing blue moves while making red moves less effective
>you have the option to run from any battle, boss or otherwise, to regroup and rechallenge (or dodge altogether - not bosses, though)
>a few parts in the story will net you different party members depending on which story path you take, and in New Game+ you can get characters that were otherwise mutually-exclusive all on the same team, with a roster of 40+ characters all-told (you also get fast-forward and slow-motion, but maybe the remake will make these standard)

I thought it was great and I played Trigger as well too. There is a ridiculous amount of stuff you can miss on a first playthrough and your choices mostly affect how your party grows.

>All that matters to me is if it's good on it's own.
The problem is it doesn't really stand on its own, no matter how many people like to pretend it does because half of them only owned a PS1 as a kid and never experienced Trigger. The plot dumps alone make it clear how important its continuity with Trigger is.

In terms of Squaresoft games, I think it's well above average in terms of visuals and music, somewhat average in terms of gameplay, and below average when it comes to pacing. The combat system is probably more simplistic than even Trigger, despite the game trying to make it look and sound complex with its flashy UI and jargon. Like in Trigger, there's no random encounters, but a lack of a proper leveling system makes a lot of the battles feel rather pointless, unless you really like hording Consumable Elements (the game's equivalent of items - see what I meant about jargon?) and crafting materials. You also have a ton of characters to recruit, but very few of them have any relevance to the main plot or the stats and skillset to be useful in combat.

Unlike Trigger's tightly-paced campaign, Cross is pretty slow and meandering. There's a good 15-20 hours where the main plot sort of stops in its tracks and forces you to go around doing fetch quests and engaging in side quests and character recruitment. A lot of it feels like pointless filler.

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are you implying CT wasn't on ps1?
>inb4 nobody knew or played it
it literally was the console i played it first