Be honest, does the physical appearance of a vidya protagonist have an effect on you choosing to play...

Be honest, does the physical appearance of a vidya protagonist have an effect on you choosing to play, or not to play the game?

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No. The only reason I haven't played Deathloop yet is because it hasn't been cracked. Denuvo is fucking me in the ass.

yes

Yes. I don't play as female because I fail to find any reason to do so.

Problem is that the game doesn't feel like an Arkane game, feels like Bioshock infinite all over again

Only when it's an anime twink or a big bald strong man.
Everything else I don't mind.

Yes, racism and sexism aside it is already understood that if the game non-white and/or non-male protag it is likely forced as shorthand for political pandering. Such a front almost always correlates to a shit game from story, gameplay, and even the OST. So the rule of thumb is to be skeptical and assume shit while approaching and hope to be wrong.

Returnal looked pretty cool from a gameplay perspective but I didn't want to play as an ugly dyke granny.

Of course, as has always been the case. Sonic's games have never been as good as Mario's but Sonic still managed to rival him for years because he looked cooler.

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Usually not. Deathloop doesn't bother me either, I just generally have no interest in its gameplay.

Yes, but only if the game is a female protagonist only.

I don't care if the character is blacker than black, or a chinaman. But if it's a woman fuck that. I will not play that ugly redhead bitch in that Sony game which name I forget.

Not really. Unless they went out of their way to be as pandering as possible, (like they clearly did with Returnal) but even then that just counts as a black mark instead of a deal breaker.
I think Deathloop was just going for a 1960s blaxploitation movie feel, but the critics saw two black protags and instantly assumed it was some incredible display of wokeness that had to be rewarded.

Based, though it should be noted that this has always been the case, for the west at least. The only reason Tomb Raider or pic related often get a pass is because people aren't willing to admit that this has always been the case.

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Haven't happened yet.
If we're talking purely physical appearance I don't really care. At worst it's bland. If the other aspects are good I can ignore boring.

A lot of modern studios use political pandering to score cheap brownie points these days, but non-male/non-white protagonists have been a common thing since the 90s

I might have played Blue Reflection if all the characters did not look like Grey Aliens.

I mean, it helps if I like how a character looks if its a third person game. Playing as some buff warrior or attractive woman is more fun than an intentionally ugly political statement. It doesn't effect the gameplay though, so it's not the most important thing ever.

well yes
if i put a gameplay trailer and see that all i control is a disembodied hand holding a gun i immediately lose all interest

Do you honestly thing Lara Croft wasn't politically motivated since day 1? The only difference is that they used to be more subtle about it.

Black people are ugly, simple as.

of course

I thought I didn't care about that until I saw SMTV's protagonist's design. The long hair and neon blue are a fucking eyesore.

This is one of the best posts I've seen today. I don't not like playing as blacks or a woman in vidya because they're black or a woman. If it's done well like in Resident Evil or The Walking Dead Season 1 no one complains because there isn't any virtue signaling shit.

All the games I bough over the end new year period had white protags or we’re about white people.

Complete opposite for me really.

I don't see how the Deathloop protag is forced, he's not some kind of token black guy who's unique because he's black, he's just a guy who does what every guy would do. He's not defined by his skin color.
When I make my characters in games, sometimes I make them tanned and sometimes black, no one's forcing me, it's not for political reasons, I just think they look cool like that.
It's an artistic choice more than anything.

No UNLESS the character has been intentionally made ugly for reasons that arent story based.

Black, white, asian, even pajeet, man or woman, I'll play any character if they're attractive and/or cool.

But characters that have their looks intentionally nerfed to appeal to sjws that dont like "unrealistic beauty standards" because they're detached from reality and draw their beauty standards from places of fiction, I dont give the game a try

this has only been the case for the last 7 to 10 years, back in the day nobody gave a fuck about such trivial superficial bullshit
so long as the MC looked cool, that's all that mattered
in fact, i remember the 7th gen being plagued by bald space marines in brown/grey linear shooters, i get that character type wasn't as disgusting as, for example, the nu Saints Row hipsters, but that doesn't mean they were any less generic and boring

No? Dude, the chick had inflatable blow up doll proportions.

you just expect this today so you dont do it, shame that some games fail because so

>black guy
>murders rich white guy
You have to be delusional to think there isn't an agenda there.

Yes, though context matters. Take the OP picture. I'm not explicitly against playing a black protagonist. Telltale's The Walking Dead and GTA San Andreas were both excellent games with black protagonists. But that picture has two blacks in it, with an afro'd woman looking strong and independent. Notta fucking chance will I play that.

depends on what i think the intention was.
if the intention was to appeal to SJWs, feminists and communists, then yes, I won't play it because i won't like it.
if i don't notice any "woke" stuff in how it's being promoted, then i don't really care that much
basically what said

If you knew Arkane studios past you'd know bro.

>Telltale's The Walking Dead
Personally I couldn't stand that game. Lee isn't a black character, he's a white character hastily rewritten to be black. He doesn't act like his race in any way.

If you mean political as in "boobs = sales" then I agree.

immersion is important though, id feel weird knifing and massacring women who are 190 cm tall and full of muscles

No, I think they thought that people liked sexy girls so they put one in their game as extra motivation to play it.
Modern Tomb Raider had to tone down her sexiness to appeal to modern critics.

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I don’t really like blacks, every example of one I’ve ever encountered was a racist white hating pos.
I usually get a ban for making posts like this as the cherry on top.

Since neither of your retards seem to understand, it's because propaganda in the past was subtle enough to know that just pushing it relentlessly wouldn't work, so they softened the blow by wrapping it in a package suitable for coomers (although it should be noted that porn in and of itself is also a ploy, but that's a discussion for another day).

Desthloop failed because its an outdated concept.

>Singleplayer focused
>Not a game as a service - You buy the game, play until you get bored then drop it forever, it wont get ongoing support from the dev
>New IP
>SINGLEPLAYER FPS AS A NEW IP

None of these things will do well in 2022. Having a black protag on the cover also probably didnt help sales but I dont think its the main reason. People just dont care about single player experiences anymore unless they're a pre-established, already loved IP (god of war, doom, etc.) The market is heavily geared towards multiplayer games as a service, purely because players have realised how much more value there is in a f2p game that gets several updates a year, that you'll play for years, versus a 5 hour 80$ storybook

MC murders blacks and other races too though, to be fair.

Black people's personalities vary wildly depending on where they're from.

this game flopped because it just another FPS (as if there weren't enough already) with procedural generation (the laziest development trend that couldn't die any sooner) on top that it had journos praising it (regardless of the reason, journos have shown to have such consistent bad taste that any endorsement from them is seen as a red flag by anyone who knows anything about the industry)

Certain traits are genetic.

Not to sound like a faggot, but there are blacks who don't act like stereotypical niggers.

A rich black guy wouldn't be believable.

But nobody cares about the political message (assuming in tomb raiders case, its "girl power") if the package its wrapped up in is "You play as a super cool sexy british adventurer with big tits and plump lips"

didn't read any post, just wanna say i hate niggers. Thanks!

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Honestly anyone who makes singleplayer focused non-GaaS, high-budget, new IP games is just asking for bankruptcy down the line. The only exception to this is if they bend the knee and go full propaganda, at which point Blackrock will keep them afloat.

Dude I understand perfectly, but you really think just because the main character was a chick it's political? Look man I hate sjw faggots and the like too but you're seeing problems where there are none.

i wouldn't know, i haven't played any Ubishit game made after Rayman Legends

Yes, I hate niggers and tranny looking sheboons.

Death loop failed because the devs misgauged the interest in blaxploitation. Probably because of confirmation bias

You don't actually believe that yourself. There is no need to be contrarian here, you are allowed to say what you actually believe.

>I don't not like playing as blacks or a woman in vidya because they're black or a woman.

"Game has a bigger in it won't be playing it"
"So you're racist"
"No, I don't have an issue with niggers but I just assume if I see a nigger in it then it's because they're trying to shove niggers down my throat"

The effects on genetics are minimal compared to environmental influence when it comes to personality.

And the issue plaguing gaming is that critics make up less than 0.000000000000001% of the market and have less and less sway over sales as people have stopped trusting them, developers pandering to them makes zero sense when the majority of gamers would still enjoy a pulp fiction esque over sexualised Lara.

Look at Kratos. Look at Doomguy. Still popular characters despite being giant hulking mountains of unrealistic muscle.

Cringeworthy.

>it's just a little cancer, it won't hurt you
Yeah no, we tried this before and look where it got us. Look how much Tomb Raider itself got destroyed. The only person not seeing problems is the one who keeps his eyes closed all the time.

Dude one of my best buds is black but doesn't act it at all. If he was white you wouldn't know he was black before. Not all blacks are niggers, you could argue most are but not all.

Nah, it's not always political pandering, not even today. You could argue that there's always some kind of agenda in the background, since vidya is also a business and the devs/publishers want to appeal to people. Sometimes it's by giving them what they're used to, other times it's by being original - and sometimes it's political pandering. But not always, not more rare decades ago.
The problem today is that this kind of pandering is so blatant and hamfisted that people suspect every non-white, non-straight character of being an example. Was that the character they honestly wanted to use, or did everyone go "we need black people, can we make some people gay, what about a transgender person?" and it was just shoved in without much thought.
It is noticeable that black characters are often shoved in this way - no matter what the setting is. The west follows America's politics and their approach to diversification. Western developers don't shove in Indian, Greenlandic, Vietnamese, etc. characters. It's black and gay characters, because that's what's important in America. The devs/publishers aren't trying to be as inclusive as possible, they're following the trends.

I've played all of their games except Death of the Outsider but mostly because I never really liked Dishonored and was already tired of the formula after 2.
I don't see how Arx, Dark Messiah, Prey or Dishonored show any red flags when it comes to that kind of stuff, I mean Dark Messiah even lets you pick the waifu you want to rule the world with and it has a naked woman in the intro.

>I don't see how the Deathloop protag is forced

That's the beauty of ranting about minorities and women. You just get to go "I don't hate minorities and women but I don't want them in my games BECAUSE they're being forced on me" and you don't have to have any proof they're being forced on you. You just get to go "I FEEL like they are" and that's good enough. If a woman features a dirty black or a dirty whore it's as easy as going "hypothetically they could be put in there to upset me".

Yes. I don't play western games with niggers. sorry, not sorry, I just don't.

Exactly. I dont understand how they get the go ahead on projects like this, whoever does marker research for vidya companies must have the easiest job in the world, you get to just make shit up and nerds will believe you
>Yeah the market is ripe for a new singleplayer fps IP, go for it!
This too.

>every day sone nigger makes these sort of threads
>just so he can get mad and start dumping porn
You realise this shit is all just bait.

This.