HDR for gaming

Does anyone else feel like HDR is a huge meme? Every time I try using it on my TV the picture ends up looking worse compared to just turning it off. Do you just need a very high end TV to notice the difference? I'm on a 43 inch TV right now so maybe it's better on larger screens? I recently got the series X so I've been wondering why this feature was so hyped up for years only to be pretty disappointed with it now. Only reason I ask about gaming in particular is because my phone also supports HDR and I've seen video content in HDR where the difference is immediately noticeable.

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It adds input lag so its worthless unless its a slower cinematic game like Death Stranding

you can't really see hdr from screenshots so i'm just going to assume this is bait

Well for one you can't really capture it in a side by side to post somewhere in SDR. From my understanding it transforms the colors into BT2020 color space, just wider range than SDR so gradients can be smoother. Then the luminance allows for better contrast. Though most games are being translated from SDR to HDR.

No shit, it's just an image for the op. I can see how it comes off as bait on this board though

Modern graphics are all a meme, yes. The developers can't afford to hire actual artists and the companies selling graphics card are making a killing.

HDR isn't ready yet. Only OLEDs comes closest to displaying proper HDR but they dont get bright enough yet. LCD's do get bright enough but shit up the entire image with blooming and shity contrast. Mini leds need to become affordable already so we can have the best of both worlds.

Just wait a few years for display technology to catch up, it's only worthwhile on multi thousand dollar TVs and even then just barely.
It really doesn't unless there is some tonemapping or other processing going on, which you don't need.

you need a high end tv/monitor that can actually do HDR properly. most people don't have that and if they do it's awfully implemented and you're better off not turning it on.

my friends family has a very good TV that does HDR right (according to RTings) and I can tell the difference on their TV but honestly, it's not even that huge. overall I think HDR is a meme and it's slowly being faded out

there are many components to hdr and they are ones which are most difficult to explain, which means a lot of monitors that are "hdr compatible" really aren't anything of the sort.

From what I gather most are basically "hdr ready". Especially when it comes to pc monitors. TVs are better for that. I think my cheap ass monitor is hdr but not really? Fuck if I know. Never got it to work anyway

Yes, but I may be bias, because I get horrible headaches when playing games with HDR turned on

Well do you understand the concept of HDR?

it's a meme because support for it is lacking. Even if game supports HDR it often doesn't work with ultra settings and nobody ever fixes it because very few people have HDR-capable displays.

I's something that's trivial to implement but very hard to implement well.
Supporting wide gamut, perceptual quantization input is no harder than SDR standards, and 10 bit color only requires a 25% increase in video bitrate.
But displaying contrast ratios that high and color gamuts that wide, requires the panel itself to match those performance metrics, otherwise you just have clipping like a poorly mastered CD.

Once or twice a day I see someone that knows that they're talking about. It's nice when that happens.

im not a video nerd but afaik it's just half the games using it dont actually do it properly, and then most displays dont actually display it properly
just turn off and forget about it

I don't really know. Got a cheap samsung g5 year or two ago on sale, because old monitor was crapping out. Supposedly has some sort of hdr, but never got anything working or looked like crap. Also you only get option for hdr if your using hdmi, not with dp.
Anyway not good monitor, but you get you pay for I guess.

it's a feature that requires cooperative effort of Microsoft, Nvidia/AMD, game developers, browser makers and streaming services to work properly and it's still very raw and shouldn't even be advertised as something good. It's very broken on Chrome for example, it doesn't work on Firefox, YouTube supports it and HDR videos are super sexy but you have to turn it off in Windows settings simultaneously because it breaks your browser otherwise. It's not something that works right out of the box, whether it's video games or movies it needs to be properly set up and source material must support HDR mode otherwise it's just fake HDR (conversion of SDR to HDR) that won't look nearly as good. In other words it's pain in the ass and very few people have proper high quality HDR displays so fixing all of this bullshit isn't a priority for anyone.

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Low-end monitors definitely don't have the brightness for any meaningful HDR. If it's HDR400 certified, it's a scam.

>Does anyone else feel like HDR is a huge meme?
For gaming yes. I hate all those post processing effects, lens flare, ambient occlusion, film grain, screen shake, motion blur, HDR, dynamic range.
All these post processing effects do is mimic the shitty limitations of real life eyes and camera lenses, why the FUCK would I want a real life disability to carry over into a game where I can have perfect visibility?

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Most "HDR" monitors are not HDR at all. When it works properly, it's fine. Not revolutionary but can really improve some scenes.

Just buy the new expensive TV and shut the fuck up.

HDR video is not the same thing as simple post-processing, which is indeed very shit.

>HDR400
But muh 10% window!
HDR is fantastic only as a concept right now. Everything else is a mess right now unless you only watch big budget movies/remasters on displays that cost $2,000+ and came out in the last few years. And even then it's not quite as advertised.

Then you don't have an HDR TV (and no, """"HDR"""" LCDs are a meme and not HDR. True HDR requires self fluorescing to achieve >255 RGB values, meaning only OLED and MicroLED can do it)

It works on consoles. But I never hear anything about it, so either it's so ubiquitous that it's just standard now and nobody thinks it's worth bringing up, or more probably nobody cares because the difference isn't immediately obvious to most people. I've got an OLED television but to be honest, I've never really felt that colors on my SDR monitor weren't vibrant enough or that it didn't get bright enough. The only time I've really felt that the colors on a display were lacking was my VR headset, where nothing is ever quite the right shade.

I wish games would at least support 10 bit rendering for now. The only one that does outside of HDR is Alien: Isolation.

For me, it was a gamechanger.

No retard on this board knows what HDR even is, read the thread to see the stupidity. Valve destroyed HDR as a concept with their post processing meme in source engine

I have an oled tv with hdr10. It's ok, hardly mind blowing