>You're going to lose this turn... Well... just because! OKAY? Yikes, no way I could have done anything about the way the game threw that at me. Let me just rewind a little and... >NO!!! START FROM THE BEGINNING! What? Come on I was pretty lucky to get what I got at the start and I have to get to bed if I want to make it to work tomorrow so- >I DON'T CARE!!! This game has infinite replayability!! Gues you should have prepared for this better :^^^^) that'll be another 20 minutes to get your run going.
Nobody is forcing you to play, but then again, these games ain't designed for zoomers with short attention spans. :^)
Jack Rogers
>Yikes, no way I could have done anything about the way the game threw that at me. Darkest Dungeon isn't a roguelite and I don't play Hand of Fate but if you lose in FTL, Into the Breach, or Slay the Spire (ascension 0 only, higher ascension levels aren't all winnable) it's because you're not good enough. Every single FTL run on any difficulty is winnable. Some people can even get win streaks on hard without pausing the game. Into the Breach is the same. You might not be able to get perfect runs on hard every time but every run is winnable. Slay the Spire on ascension 0 is piss easy and it shows how shit you are if you think there was nothing you could have done to avoid losing.
Jaxon Turner
I'm pretty sure Darkest Dungeon is coded to fuck with you. Like if you hit too many times it'll force a miss. Or if you're near the end of a dungeon and your party has high HP, enemies will automatically crit.
Joseph Butler
>You're going to lose this turn... Well... just because! OKAY? >Into the breach Into the Breach is a chess/puzzle game. If you lose it's your fault. I wish it had more content
Christian Phillips
>posts min rng oriented games with that you even had a chance to be correct
Ian Lee
All of these games can fuck you, because of the randomness involved.
It's rare on "normal" difficulties, but they can happen.
Owen Ramirez
Tell me how those games can fuck you and I'll tell you how you could've avoided it.
Leo Turner
You need to think of these games like a solo electronic board game. Also, if you can't put it down and have to go for another run right then, the design philosophy worked pretty well.
Cooper Brown
>Every single FTL run on any difficulty is winnable Yeah but only if you do the meta. The game's so unbalanced. Just boost your engines and teleport into everything.
Landon Howard
>RNG >10% to get crit >80% for hero to hit >Rare items that raise your chances are locked behind several RNG checks >You must adjust your hero stats and upgrade arduously before you can take on the boss! >If you're unlucky you just lose! >Sorry! Better luck next time!
The only reason I stop myself from finishing DD and FTL is because of the initial BULLSHIT that is required for you to have a decent run going. OH I'M SORRY YOU WANT TO WIN THE GAME THROUGH SKILL AND EXPERIENCE? NAH FUCK YOU HERE'S AN RNG CHECK THAT YOU CAN FAIL REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERSONAL ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME!
James Ward
>game takes skills and careful planning >MUH GAME IS UNFAIR Have you ever tried adapting your playstyle ? To try to understand the dev design philosophy ? To stop being a fucking casul ?
>Hand of Fate you have to be actually retarded if you're constantly losing in Hand of Fate
Isaiah Morgan
I've got to last row and dropped the game. Is it even worth beating? The iframes on the dodge were so generous that I would rarely get hit in any fight, got really boring after a while
Connor Jenkins
>Takes skill and careful planning >RNG is a core component of the game >Your equipment and accessory drops are based on a randomized value >Your hits and misses are based on an RNG check. >Bosses with high dodge chance >Weapons and explosives can miss a ship's target >You can be crit and killed from a single ability that applies DoT. >All of this can be avoided with skill and careful planning though!
You're retarded.
Aiden Ross
>ftl >RNG CHECK THAT YOU CAN FAIL REGARDLESS OF YOUR PERSONAL ABILITY TO PLAY THE GAME! Name it.
Jacob Gonzalez
Hand of Fate/2, literally progressing through the game if can get injured outside of combat, you need food as a random resource, if you dont get it you starve and lose more hp. You can try and offset this food and healing cards, but its all luck. There are even missions where you are not allowed to heal.
FTL - run into a ship with 2 shields and rockets too early with the wrong ship.
Into the Breach - enemies spawn on the opposite side of the map, free hits on buildings
Darkest Dungeon - all hits are roll based, you can miss and they can just crit.
Slay the Spire - get a bad hand, its cards
These are from most to least randomly fucking you i would say in my experience.
I own every single one of these games, and enjoy playing them for the most part, but it is entirely possible to just get fucked and have no say in it. Every videogame can do this though.
Jack Perry
Maybe don't fuck with events if you don't have cloning bay or a blue option? You are never forced to take risks in FTL, ever.
Michael Lopez
>Play DD on Bloodmoon >Lol just don't take risks looooool! >Play FTL on hardest settings >You know u can just ignore events and get to the boss without enough scrap and upgrades to die, right?
Fuck off you stupid mother fucker. Play the game before you say stupid shit. If you play a game on normal or easy and you don't have a problem with RNG good for you but I'm not about to play something on anything but hard when I want to experience a challenge that isn't ARTIFICIALLY DIFFICULT.
Kinda worth if you really like the Dealer and his voice. If you don't. you might as well finish it so you can take it off the backlog.
I never bothered with the sequel, seems like it's the same game with some minor additions.
Levi Gutierrez
>FTL Taking damage isn't fucking you, it's just part of the game. But run if you fight an unkillable early ship. Or use missiles yourself. Or use a boarding party. >Into the Breach Position your mechs better. And taking building damage isn't an instant game over. >Slay the Spire Build a better, smaller deck so you don't draw shit hands. If you think STS can fuck you on the easiest difficulty you are very bad at the game.
As I said before I don't play Hand of Fate so I can't speak about it. And Darkest Dungeon isn't a roguelite, it's more like XCOM. If you get your best party killed then build another group and go again.
Elijah Scott
I will save-scum these games and you're shitty game loop design can't stop me
Nathan Moore
>Slay the Spire Build your deck better. Stop taking useless cards and you won't get a bad hand >Hand of Fate Same deal diffrent deckbuikding. You get told exactly what each card can provide when you're putting it in your deck, so levels with food problems you should be adding food sources and levels without healing you need the same and armor/weapon sources to deal with combat. That said, even with proper deckbuilding you can still get fucked by the dealers cards showing up and yours not, but you can minimize the risk. >FTL Run away, pay them off, don't just fight things that are obviously gonna kill you >Into the Breach You can see the spawns a turn in advance, send someone over to deal with it. Also, if they hit a building once or twice who cares, the hit that kills you is the only important one. Not familiar enought with DD to give specific advice but "don't take stupid risks and use the tools provided to minimize the risks you're forced to take" works as a general rule for all RNG games that are well designed.
Parker Williams
every fight in FTL felt like RNG for me. i haven't played slay the spire but tainted grail and it felt the same.
to this day the only rogue lite i truly loved is the caribbean sail. didn't feel so powerless because of the freedom (we need more open world rogue lites)
