>dude what if we made a generic survival horror game and then slapped a brand name on it and tossed in a few throwaway references in for some extra cash
>dude what if the graphics were somehow worse than the last two games
>dude what if none of the game actually took place in silent hill
>dude what if we created the most uninteresting, bland, milquetoast, monotonous, ineffectual, uncharismatic main character in the history of video games
>dude what if we had a lame villain too
>dude what if took out the tank control movement but still had the character get locked in a running animation and turn like a submarine
>dude what if we removed fixed camera angles so our new movement system is even jankier and the player has to constantly wrestle with the camera
>dude what if we introduced deteriorating weapons so the player is completely discouraged from using them and sticks to dogshit ones that never break
>dude what if we removed save points and forced the player to return to a separate area every time they wanted to save the fucking game
>dude what if we went from an unlimited inventory system that worked fine for three games to a bullshit resident evil magic box that requires the player to return to a different area with no combat and slog through a different perspective just to drop off an item
>dude what if we made the first person movement shitty too and had an FOV of 40
>dude what if we dropped the interesting idea of constantly changing flavor text and item placement in the apartment halfway through the game
>dude what if instead we replaced it with shitty scripted hauntings where the player has to equip a certain (breakable) item and stand motionless and stare at objects without any input
>dude what if instead of interesting, unique enemy designs mired in symbolism and informed by the characters, we had zombie dogs, bugs, giant leeches, and monkeys with visible asscracks
Silent Hill 4 Hate Thread
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>dude what if we took our series about extradimensional/psychological nightmare creatures with a hint of industrial body horror and turned it into generic japanese spooky ghost garbage
>dude what if we had an enemy that made a comical stock belching sound when damaged like a fucking adam sandler comedy
>dude what if we had an enemy that was a possessed wheelchair
>dude what if it was the most dangerous enemy in the game because of the awful character movement
>dude what if the soundtrack only played in cutscenes
>dude what if instead of a full game, we made half a game and repeated it twice
>dude what if made the second half an escort mission, aka the least fun part of silent hill 2
>dude what if we made the AI you have to escort literally fucking retarded
>dude what if she got stuck on corners and walked half the speed of the player and if she was too far away when the player left an area, she would just stop
>dude what if she leapt in front of enemies and triggered stationary ghosts to resurrect by attacking them
>dude what if we made the ending dependent on the player making sure our braindead AI only takes a certain amount of damage
>dude what if we removed the extremely helpful map markers from the previous games like circled puzzles, marked key places, and distinct lines for doors that can/can’t be opened
>dude what if the non-fixed camera angles made the player miss key items
>dude what if we had almost no flavor text and barely let the player inspect anything outside of their apartment
>dude what if we had a bunch of things that the player can’t interact with so the player learns to ignore them, then stuck key items in them so the player runs around like a fucking idiot for a while
>dude what if we recycled the toilet gag from silent hill 3 but made it less endearing
>dude what if we removed the flashlight so all the cool lighting effects were gone
>dude what if we removed shadows completely outside of certain areas
>dude what if we took the immersive improvements we brought to silent hill 3, like climbable ladders and player collision with edges/barriers, and replaced them with loading screens and running in place respectively
>dude what if we had an elaborate death scene complete with sad music for a character we’ve known for fifteen minutes in the first area
>dude what if we made henry slowly stumble out of bed and look around for five minutes in a cutscene every time the player completed a world
>dude what if instead of creating genuinely unsettling cutscenes, we just slapped a bunch of filters on them, jerked the camera around, and rendered them in stop motion
>dude what if enemy attacks could hit you on the backswing even though they’re facing the opposite fucking direction
>dude what if we explained the villain’s backstory through notes then had an untextured character hang from the ceiling and repeat the same backstory through dialogue in a cutscene
>dude what if we played obnoxious repetitive sounds like a ringing phone or a child asking for his father while the player tries to explore so they rush through as quickly as possible just to make it stop, only to miss important items
>dude what if the enemy AI was so fucked that they just ran into walls and corners until you attacked them
>dude what if we couldn’t program enemies to properly react to falling down stairs so we just had them awkwardly slide while their damage sound repeats over itself
>dude what if we had almost no firearms available on the first playthrough
>dude what if we teased the player with models of shotguns and rifles but didn’t actually put them in the game
>dude what if made the landlord james sunderland’s dad and did absolutely nothing with that revelation
>dude what if we had a shitty “good” ending
>for a character we’ve known for fifteen minutes in the first area
kek this
First time I saw it, I felt cringe. Even back than my first thought was: "what the hell were they thinking?!"
f i l t e r e d
Fag.
This is cringe.
SH4 is unfairly hated. It's got a far more interesting and scary story than any other game in the series, and PT looked like it took the most influence from it.
Love the lack of a rebuttal every single time.
>dude what if we made the same game over and over without trying anything new
>dude change is always good believe all women
where's yours? all i see is some tasteless fag's opinions
Not op but you can’t use a 10 minute cancelled tech demo as the crutch of your argument. It isn’t like they invented the concept of a scary house.
I agree. SH4 is dogshit
If anything it's unfairly liked. Game is dog shit and worse than half the western SH games
>more interesting story
lmao
Doesn’t she also offer to suck your dick or something?
The argument I always use is that if it didn’t have the silent hill name almost no one would remember it
>>dude what if made the landlord james sunderland’s dad and did absolutely nothing with that revelation
And you're right really.
>and tossed in a few throwaway references
Actually SH2 has references to SH4, it mentions Walter Sullivan.
>dude what if we made the antagonist that faggot kid from rocket power when he grows up
Silent Hill 4 is a mediocre version of 1408.
90% of my complaints are objective design flaws. I just put them in digestible meme format for bottom feeders like yourself. But I see I mislead you into thinking this is a shitpost and not actually reading it.
>worse than half the western SH games
It is worse because it was the last chance for the franchise to be great. They had the talent, the tools, the IP, and they pissed it down the drain with a half assed experiment. The western games have a handicap and can't stand on the shoulders of the first three games, and we all accepted that before they even came out because Team Silent wasn't involved. SH4 had potential to be the best (and scariest) game in the series and they fucked it up monumentally.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say Origins is better than SH4. It is at the very least more fun to play, and it actually takes place in fucking Silent Hill.
>objective design flaws
haha
SH4 is j-horror so of course it will filter people. same reason fatal frame and siren series didnt get same mainstream attention as silent hill.
>90% of my subjective complaints are objective design flaws
Top kek
>In fact, I'd go so far as to say Origins is better than SH4. It is at the very least more fun to play, and it actually takes place in fucking Silent Hill.
Based take and I unironically agree
A game feeling like a Chinese android title isn’t a prerequisite to being j horror is it
>still no rebuttal
It's okay, I accept your concession. Just admit you like it because you have nostalgia for it and you probably haven't even played it in a decade.
What are games you could title silent hill 4 and get a better experience than the room?
>dude what if we made the same game over and over without trying anything new
They did that. SH never significantly changed anything about itself to the point that people got bored and stopped buying it
>prove my opinions aren’t objective
wew lad
Siren didn't get mainstream appeal because the game is overly cryptic and a puzzle / stealth game filled with borderline instant kills.
Fatal Frame was fairly popular in the PS2 era but mostly just was too repetitive to really be interesting as a whole series
>getting filtered this hard by a solid horror game from solid developers
You picked up the doll didn't you, fag?
I just pirated Fatal Frame 5 on PC and that game is fun. Its descended slightly into coombait but its still 3spoogy5me at times
I like the idea of Silent Hill 4, it has some interesting concepts and ideas at play. Your home and sanctuary being corrupted. The claustrophobia and voyeurism of spying on your neighbors and the outside world. A touch of agoraphobia. It just butchers the execution at every possible step that everything I could conceivably like about it in theory goes out the window. Surprised nobody has actually tried to pick up the pieces and do what this game tried to do proper and with symbolism/subtext on par with the first three games.
>generic japanese
So just like the first one as well?
Yeah just like all those generic japanese games that take place in realistic faithful recreations of midwestern American towns and take almost all their influences from western horror. You fucking idiot.