Western fiction in general actually. Lord of the Rings, Mass Effect, God of War, RDR II, Witcher 3. It's all so fucking miserable, like real life. People play games to escape from misery, not to endure more of it. I'm not just talking about the story or writing either, everything from the pallette they use, the level design, the architecture, the gameplay, it's all designed like it's supposed to make you depressed and you're supposed to clap because "WOW IT'S SO REALISTIC".
It wasn't always like this. I remember being a kid and the West was making games with colour and charm and JOY. But not anymore.
How's lord of the rings depressing?It's a happy ending
Caleb Rogers
>It's a happy ending 99% of it takes place at night time in some rocky, god forsaken shithole where no life can survive except demonic magical entitites trying to murder you. The landscape is black, the enemies are black, the weather is black, it's all doom and gloom and depressing misery.
Levi Barnes
Ah yes the god forsaken shit holes like the shire,imladris and lothlorien.
Tyler Foster
>the shire,imladris and lothlorien. Where they spend less than 5% of the story.
Jeremiah Fisher
don't you mean 1%?
Henry Carter
Retarded weeb thread
Bentley Ramirez
Western fiction prefers bittersweet and has had a long ancient history of telling tragedies with silver linings.
Western readers are so grounded in reality that their joy needs a sense of being earned. They dont want a mindless whimsy for its own sake. they want their escapism to remind them its not so bad, that there is hope. That things going to shit is both as natural as the sessons yet overcome all the same.
That's why all these fictions are epics. They want the good times to be special. They want contrast even if its the same greek cliche
Daniel Hall
Im glad the memes in that image are present then I would have no clue how to feel, major feels!
Aaron Cruz
Yeah the west generally likes gritty and mature things. I just watched some old jackie chan movies and I thought “what are the state of martial art flicks today?”. It’s just edgy John Wick and Shang Chi. We will never get Jackie Chan fighting comedy movies ever again
Mason Davis
RDR2 and Mass Effect (at least the first game) have their sad moments but I wouldn't say they're meant to depress you all the way through.
Easton Hall
It's bittersweet, actually.
Austin James
Because misery fuels us unlike shitty otaku neets who hide from society
Parker Morgan
I don't get it. A lot of those have positive endings and the struggles depicted pay off in some way. They aren't fucking Cormac McCarthy novels.
What do you consider "positive" stories?
Gabriel Lee
Middle Earth is literally living its last era of any greatness and magic during LotR. At least in the books, everywhere there are signs of past kingdoms, increasing decay and rot (Orthanc, orcs, the filthy land of Mordor), dead faces of elf warriors in swamps, forgotten races and the last elves leaving for better lands. You feel like you're enjoying the last bits of "true" Middle Earth during the journey, and witness the last wars that are worth writing poems of.
Adam Richardson
Because I live a happy life without any real troubles and gritty worlds are exciting.
Jonathan Thompson
because as shit as the real world is, it reminds you it could always be worse
Joshua Cook
>I don't get it. A lot of those have positive endings and the struggles depicted pay off in some way Walking across glass for an hour and getting rewarded with $10,000 doesn't suddenly make that hour of walking across glass not miserable. Get it now?
You're just bitching because it isn't all softcore hentai
Asher Walker
Why you said Witcher 3 and not Witcher in general? Western games try to include something to say in their games, like you have these indie games like Stanley Parable which says something, they dont want to make games just for fun. Now you say they are depressing, but there is Uncharted for example which has comedic tone, you also have games like GTA. But generally they are more serious.
Matthew Scott
collectathonfags get their fixes from MMOs now
Alexander Cook
GoW isn't even depressing. Wtf are you on? How fragile are you?
William Torres
>It wasn't always like this. >lists "The Lord of the Rings," a 1954 book What did he mean by this?