Why is no-one willing to put the effort into making something that can genuinely compete with Smash? It's clearly a viable option, but all attempts at Smash clones are all indieshit or licensed shovelware... or whatever the hell PlayStation All-Stars tried to be.
There's been many successful competitors to Mario Kart like Crash Team Racing and the Sonic & SEGA All-Stars games. Why is it so hard for someone to do the same, but with Smash?
It's impossible to make a proper rival to Smash Bros anymore because Smash Bros sadly has become something more than just fun gameplay or music, it's how many popular IPS are together in one big game. There's literally no other game where you can find Luigi beating up Terry while Sephiroth is taunting in the corner. Or having Sonic & Kazuya fighting Pacman & Princess Daisy. This is why Smash Bros "clones or killers" because they're unable to do this or refuse to pay tons of money to use IPs.
Mason Jones
The closest we got crossover-wise was unironically Marvel vs Capcom, but then Disney happened.
Landon Ward
smash unironically plays like dogshit and no-one would care about it if it wasn't for the IP orgy. it's not a good game. it's a shit game that reminds you of good games.
Counterpoint: I play it with my friends and we have fun.
Eli Thompson
Counterpoint: ANYTHING is fun with friends
Chase Bailey
Because AAA publishers/developers want a quick profit, so they don't give their development teams the time or money to make something good because when they say "Now", they expect people to pay because the market says they should.
The only people who are willing and able to give these clones the love they need are independent developers who don't have the resources to make them as big as smash.
Gabriel Peterson
>587175426 >587176431 (You)
You don't need to rely on a bunch of third party shit, especially when that was one of the worst things to happen to Smash in later games (it was fine in Brawl and base-game Smash 4, but Smash 4 DLC and Ultimate went overboard with it).
>Because AAA publishers/developers want a quick profit, so they don't give their development teams the time or money to make something good because when they say "Now", they expect people to pay because the market says they should. So how come we've gotten several worthy Mario Kart competitors?
Zachary Cook
Cultural Phenomenon, Smash has 20+ years of star power, and companies were practially ready to suck Nintendo's dick to get their characters into the game by the end. You can't compete with that
Charles King
Smash only exists because Nintendo has throughout the generations been able to cultivate their own following of first-party loyalists and positioned themselves as the dominant casual/party platform. You're not going to get a competitor without those underlying traits.
Hudson White
>You don't need to rely on a bunch of third party shit When you reach the point where Nintendo is only giving you lukewarm in-housers to work with to shill the latest games, you kinda do, it was a miracle we even got Ridley and K Rool during that phase
Colton Powell
monopoly with friends isn't fun at all
Aiden Cox
There's been plenty of time to attempt it within those years though. There was what, like only two Mario Kart games when Crash Team Racing was made. Look at how late Sonic and SEGA All-Stars Racing was and that was successful as well.
>You're not going to get a competitor without those underlying traits. Have you seen how bad Snoys are?
Nicholas Moore
Because smash has actually a budget
Jordan Bailey
This, except the good game is Melee
Jaxson Diaz
You don't need rosterfag star power for a Kart game, just good controls, those games were half a literally who? fest and were still much more enjoyable to me than Mario Kart
Jacob Morgan
Most Snoys, as pathetic as they are, don't represent the majority audience, unlike the typical Nintendo fan that gets Smash. Most people who get a PlayStation just use it to play whatever sports games and online shooters they feel like. Further, Snoys only care about their ultra-epic serious cinematic walking simulators, which are pretty much the polar opposite of a whimsy platform fighter party game.
Like I guess maybe you could put Joel, Nathan Drake, and Kratos in the next Madden, but even that wouldn't be close. Smash is its own phenomenon that required specific conditions in order to be as much of a success as it is.
Wyatt Perry
Shower, now!
Grayson Brooks
take a shower
Joseph Brooks
Playstation All-Stars roster was a fucking joke, filled it with the most bottom of the barrel literally who the fucks possible, even Smash now has more fighters that people would consider "playstation characters" than PSASB
Charles Morgan
>Snake >Cloud >Sephiroth >Joker >Kazuya >Sora >Classic Dante Mii Costume
Smash Ultimate is more of a celebration of PlayStation than the actual PlayStation game, lol.
Jackson Jenkins
Ultibeaners still forcing this meme? Your tournaments are the ones that smell like shit.
Alexander Robinson
wavedash over to bathroom and grab the deodorant bottom with your arthritis-crippled hand
Joseph Hall
True, but even if PAS had the most popular characters to ever appear on a Sony platform, it would still pale to Smash. For one, everyone automatically knew it was a Smash clone from the moment it was announced, so it looked like Sony doing a pathetic follow-the-leader instead of doing something innovative themselves. Second, the fact that the vast majority of those characters would be third party proves that the Sony "following" is dependent on which third parties happen to be on PlayStation, rather than a following of Sony or PlayStation as a brand the way Nintendo has a dedicated brand following.
Landon Cook
Don't forget DragonQuest 8, one of the best JRPG's on the PS2 =^)
Aiden Russell
I AM EXTREMELY PROUD TO GO THROUGH MY ENTIRE LIFE NOT KNOWING WHAT "SMASH" EVEN IS.
>SEE YOUTUBE CLIPS OF SOME RANDOM RETARDS SHITTING THEMSELVES OVER A GAME REVEAL TRAILER >GOOGLE THAT GAME, NEVER HEARD OF IT >WHAT IS THIS >IS THIS A MOBILE GAME OR SOMETHING
This is the worst post in the thread. Someone managed to beat the Melee Autist which is no small feat either.
Jaxson Martinez
>arthritis-crippled hand Translation: you're a smelly zoomer spic that sucks ass at Melee and copes with a projecting meme that applies more to yourself and other Ultimate players.
Cooper Young
BUT WHAT EVEN IS THIS GAME. ALL I SEE IS A TINY PLATFORM WITH SOME RANDOM SHITTY CHARACTERS HITTING EACH OTHER. HOW IS ANY OF THAT A GOOD REASON TO SHIT HIMSELF.