Sinnohsisters... i don't feel so good

Sinnohsisters... i don't feel so good

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>Bunch of shitmon before first gym vs small amount of quality mons before first gym

Sinnoh wins again.

user, the only "quality" shitmon on there is Budew line, and even then thats left wanting. Just admit your region has poor distribution.

>bibrael
>luxray
>kricketune
>""""quality mons"""""""
Good to see sinnoh fans as delusional as ever

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Unova is also this terrible btw, if not worse.

Sorry, but Kricketune is one of the best memes in Pokemon, automatically not a shitmon.

Plenty of hoenn's early pokemon are useful, like shroomish and makuhita, and plenty become good like ralts, slakoth, whismur, etc. Even seedot and lotad are good for their early evo level and advantage over the first gym

>counting Hoenn version exclusives as part of the same group

Dumb

it's a shitmon because it has shit stats you fucking loser

Bibarel is the best HM slave in the game, also Bidoof is a literal God.

Luxray has one of the best designs in Pokemon.

DELELELELELELWOOOOOOOOPPP.

I don't see the delusion.

Didn't Shedinja win VGC?

Stats aren't all that matters. Especially before the first gym.

>bragging about HM slaves
The absolute state

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You have to be 18 or older to post here user...

I don't understand the logic here. To have played DP when it was released, you would have to be 18 years or older by default.

Starly, Shinx and Budew line are all incredibly solid for that early in the game. Meanwhile in Hoenn, you have Ralts, Shroomish or Lotad as the only decent mons. Let's not forget Sinnoh's Gym1 comes much quicker than Hoenn's Gym1. 2 towns, 3 routes Vs 2 towns 4 routes plus a forest

>hm slaves
Do people really?

Not bragging, just understanding the context of the Gen and that HM slaves were useful. That by definition means it's not a shitmon since it has a use.

It has nothing to do with playing sinnoh on release, no normal adult references memes in response to criticism and expects to be taken seriously

Why? It is relevant to the discussion.

>bunch of shitmon and one waifubait
vs
>two great designs (Starly, shinx), two shitmons, and something that's achieved meme status

All the new pokemon in RSE are shit tier, whereas at least two of the new designs in Sinnoh are great.

HMs were and always will be shit, and thank god they're moving away from them.

It's never relevant for adults.

They literally explained why in that latest DYKG video. Gen 3 was originally going to be a full reboot like Gen 5.

this is such a retarded nitpick, even if there aren't many gen 4 Pokémon before the first gym they have a higher usable to shitmon ratio and you also have access to many non gen 4 mons

Man the design quality dropped so hard in just one gen

>choices and consequences in an RPG is bad

>choices
you had no choice but to use them tho???

>makuhita
Wrong.

>Linoone
Drops off HARD after Flannery, but useful for HMs
>Mightyena
Dead weight from the start
>Dustox and Beautifly
Drops off after Brawly
>Shiftry
Locked until post Winnona. At which point it becomes useless
>Gardevoir
Actually useful
>Masquerain
Drops off after Brawly
>Ludicolo
Useful
>Swellow
Drops off after Flannery
>Breloom
Useful
>Slaking
Truant.
>Delcatty
Literally zero uses outside of filling a dex slot.
>Ninjask
Pretty useful
>Shedinja
Useful
>Exploud
Great coverage, but lacks I power to get anything done reliable
>Pellipper
Useful.
>Hariyama
Eh. Useful. Fighting types are really good in Hoenn.


>Staraptor
Can literally replace your starter.
>Bibarel
Best HM user to get around the map
>Kricketune
Dead in the water
>Luxury
Actually useful
>Roserade
B
Best Grass type option in the game.

Adjusted for size. Hoenn has more useless mons from the start, while Sinnoh literally has one.