Is Ethan the strongest trainer?
Is Ethan the strongest trainer?
Tyler Hill
Adrian Harris
Defeating Red means nothing, A lot of MC's beat him and nobody is ever really shocked by it.
Liam Gomez
No that's Rosa
Mason Green
>HeartGold_SoulSilver_Ethan.png
I actually think that's a picture of Ethan. :)
Ethan Butler
Nate/Rosa is the strongest trainer if we're going by the number of elite-high tier opponents they've beaten.
Oh Ethan beat Red? So did Nate and he beat 7 other champions aswell as well as all the Gym Leaders of Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova
Jeremiah Phillips
his name is GOLD
Logan Cook
gold beat red in his prime with no tournament rules, most other MC's were either fighting an old washed up red or were fighting in the PWT
Aaron Sullivan
2010 was a cringey year
Isaac Sanchez
>no tournament rules
Why would those matter? He fights with his full team, as does everyone else in the PWT.
>fighting an old washed up red
Source on Red becoming weaker over time?
On this train of logic Gold beat a frozen, nearly dead Red who had been hacking away at random wilds on Mt. Silver for God knows how long, that clearly wasn't his prime.
Don't forget the protagonists who have literally taken on and beaten gods of space and time like Lucas/Dawn or Akari/Rei, or who canonically own world ending dragons like Hilda/Hilbert/Brendan/May, or Victor/Gloria who beat arguably the most powerful trainer in the world along with several other champion class trainers
Red and Gold probably don't crack top 10
Eli Rivera
>arguably the most powerful trainer in the world along with several other champion class trainers
who
Landon Kelly
tournament rules limit you to 3 pokemon at level 50 with no items.
red's team in gen 7 is level 60-70 compared to the 70-80 in his prime, when he was grinding nonstop in the most dangerous place in the reigon.
Luis Ward
>Implying only Pokémon battles and being strong matters
He doesn't need to be the strongest; it doesn't matter for him. What matters is he is the most annoying, delinquent, troublemaker trainer of all protagonists. He could shine and be a legend on things other than just battles. I can see he as far more formidable adversary when he is an underdog.
>He might lose against champions, other protags. But he's the kind of person that ensures that his opponent's victory are pyrrhic one and obtained by frustrations.
Also HGSS Ethan is too timid and docile. His redesign should at least retains his delinquent and cocky attitude back in GSC, i miss his sneer.
Jaxon Russell
>red's team in gen 7 is level 60-70 compared to the 70-80 in his prime
Levels across different games mean absolutely nothing. Alder retrained himself between games and became much stronger, but his levels dropped by 15 in gameplay.
Asher Scott
What's his elo?
Landon Campbell
noep
>Mattyb
disgusting
Henry Wilson
Lucas canonically owns all the hisuian dex
Enamorus, 6 starters, legendaries & arceus
Lucas>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all
Elijah Stewart
No. Red is the only one that actually did his job and captured every pokemon on his region.
He's also the only protag that people actually care about. Meeting him is the pinacle of Gold's life while for Red it was just a battle.
Lincoln Ward
>weaker
>no longer the champion
Brody Fisher
USUM trainers defeated all villains at maximum power with legendaries the same day
Red and Ethan are the weakest protags
Christian Howard
Pretty much, yeah. Retards tend to say otherwise cuz they mix up game canon with the mangas.
Easton Cox
Leon, Raihan (said to be champion tier in any other region), Piers (gives Raihan a hard fight when Raihan uses Dynamax), Mustard.
So? You should be bringing your 3 best mons, if your 3 best mons can't beat another person's 3 best why would your 3 worst make a difference.
Levels don't actually exist in gameplay and there's no indication he ever stops training. Elio/Selene fight a healthy Red with probably 10 years of training under his belt, Gold fights a Red with 2 with his team beaten down by the harsh conditions.
Liam Ortiz
That's a lot of headcanon you got there