>Kanto - Unova
3 generations in between
>Unova - Gen 9 region
3 generations in between
We are supposedly getting a lot of new mons. I unironically would like to see dex tropes and archetypes revisited
Kanto - Unova
Brody Adams
Brody Brown
So we're gonna have another Drill-based Pokémon?
Nathaniel Taylor
Always wondered...
Golem -> Gigalith
Machamp -> Conkeldurr
Alakazam -> Reuniclus?
Gengar -> Chandelure?
Hudson Williams
Between those gens, we got Mega Evolution, regional forms, and the return of cross gen evolutions, with Gen 9 bringing another variant of reintroducing old Pokemon as something new.
That is what they're aiming for.
Nathaniel Cox
Unova is basically convergent evolution without the label. Whatever this new gen's gimmick is, I hope it covers the counterparts like
Alexander Brown
Reuniclus is one part of a version exclusive pair, and Chandelure uses an evolution stone. The top two are the only ones that fit.
Liam Watson
but it wasn`t until gen 5 we finally got a three-staged ghost line in the same gen. Dusknoir is like an afterthought. psychic line was also done in Hoenn but gen 3 always felt soft-reboot of kanto dex as well in many parts.
Jace Howard
Maybe Gen 9 could give us the missing ones for Gengar and Alakazam.
Chase James
>same type = knockoff
i hate Any Forumsedoes....
Jose Morris
nice strawman. never said knock off and never meant anything negative about it. actually wish for similar lines.
Owen Sanders
Apologies, but reboot isn't even the right word either. That implies it's trying to be like the first of it's type and not just another mon of that same type.
Joshua Garcia
3 generations in between
This fandom is so autistic it can’t simply say 4 generations later
Michael Wright
> unironically would like to see dex tropes and archetypes revisited
Why? Unova did that and everyone possess their panties and cried.
Alexander Price
Older Pokemon games are better precisely because they followed and refined the tropes and formulas set by the first generation. Trying to change that formula and somehow appeal to a new audience is what ruined Pokemon.
5th gen was an intentional "remake" or reimagination of the first generation. Similarly;
Klinklang -> Magneton/zone
Musharna -> Clefable
Zebstrika -> Rapidash
Swoobat -> Golbat
Audino -> Chansey
Throw/Sawk -> Hitmonlee/chan
Garbodor -> Muk
And so on. Just compare the dex for both generations. Down to the number of Pokemon in them.
Ryan Hill
>Musharna -> Clefable
I thought it was a reference to Cubone from the first game.
Thomas Russell
yea my fault for poor word choice. just couldn't expound it. for me a region feels more fully fleshed out if it has a good amount of unique mons that fulfill a lot of niche ecologically and competitively
Ryan Gonzalez
Wouldn't Musharna be Hypno? They have the same inepiration.
Dominic Edwards
Might be, but regardless, they almost all have counterparts in 1st gen. There's even small details like Transform being available to only Ditto and Mew in 1st gen, and in 5th gen two pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark, being canonically able to transform etc.
Sebastian Cox
>Older Pokemon games are better precisely because they followed and refined the tropes and formulas set by the first generation. Trying to change that formula and somehow appeal to a new audience is what ruined Pokemon.
Pray tell what is the context of older games. I can't figure out if you are against the dex archetypes, or against generational gimmicks starting with megas
Brandon Rodriguez
>Machamp -> Conkeldurr
I really really want another family for this
Jeremiah Lewis
Yes please
Luke White
>There's even small details like Transform being available to only Ditto and Mew in 1st gen, and in 5th gen two pokemon, Zorua and Zoroark, being canonically able to transform etc.
This is a coincidence.