Think about it no one cares about the teenage kid that’s a little off/ no self esteem. No a kid becomes 18. From there on to 22. He could try go to school or something. Even if he is awkward, just showing up can mean he could be taken under some one’s wing. Everyone perceives them as a kiddo
After 23 yo the cutoff comes you are not a young kid anymore, you are an adult. If you didn’t found your place now it’s enternally over. If you are not rich to cope it’s over. You won’t wake up one day and think, yes I will turn my personality and my own life around. If you are still unsure in social situations, people well be creeped out. If you are inexperienced with girls the creepy age starts to set in
Even though you are being facetious, you are right on some level. In reality, the cut off age is closer to 30.
People will only perceive what they can see though, so if you turn it around, nobody cares. If you were a popular guy, but had a mental breakdown which destroyed your confidence, people would still the same perceive you as a underdeveloped creep.
People don't think about it, they just feel it based on what they see in front of them, and how other people are reacting to you.
Angel Watson
ffs you're a man at 16. Sheltered pussies.
Joshua Barnes
Essentialist garbage. You are as you do. If you wish to be otherwise, act otherwise. Improve thyself always.
Jackson Morgan
Also to add, it's not impossible to learn social skills in your late 20s, 30s, maybe even 40s. It just gets harder, and you have to get a job which forces you to interact with people on a positive level. Duty of care jobs can turn people around.
Parker Rogers
Shut up, get a shitty job, and adopt some responsibility, work hard af and you'll eventually make it... Stop acting like a sad pussy Victim, that's when it's truly over
David Gonzalez
This. Back in my day we lied about our age to fight in wars because that is what men do you punk ass kids.
Benjamin Morales
>People don't think about it, they just feel it based on what they see in front of them, and how other people are reacting to you. Unironically this.
Just sell the image you want people to buy, it's not that deep, they don't have to know your insecurities/problems.
Dominic Stewart
The truth is, you shouldn't care about any of that. Fag.
Around 30 is right. If by 30 you haven't: >Had sex >Have a stable job for 3+ years OR are well established in a certain field >Making a good % above the median salary in your country >Have purchased your first home and are on the housing ladder >BONUS: Are in a good relationship and are married/planning to and have children in the future Then you have failed as a man, simply put you are still a boy, still even spend your time on escapist things like games. I am sorry if you are personally offended (no, not really because it's your fuck up). Want to improve yourself? Sound like hard work? Well that's because it is. 90pc people you envy are there because of hard work - no sweetie, they all weren't handed it in a silver platter like your hivemind friends would have you believe (simply a cope strategy if I ever saw one). Bye.
Yes, after 23 you're not a completely snot nosed brat anymore. Only after 30 you can be taken seriously. Males under 30 are complete clowns
Andrew Reyes
This post reeks of coping so fucking much
post hairline
Jordan Bennett
Hairline is fine. Other men on my family haven't gone bald either. My dad had thick hair in his 70's and 80's
Chase Collins
Social skills aren't that hard, people who really can't observe the common courtesies or plow through the mud a little should not complain.
Jaxon Gonzalez
>males under 30 are complete clowns this is mostly true. they havent done enough character building yet
Michael Wilson
This is closer. You can actually “turn your life around” at any point, there are just added challenges as you get older. But in terms of benefit of the doubt, eg if you fuck up at work, to some people you’re still a “young guy” until like late 20s. But yeah by 23 you should have your shit together
Austin Cruz
>tfw joined the army at 12 years old with a fake mustache and got sent to Nam where I got to fly helicopters and shoot people and get Ara Ara'd by big titty azn whores who I creampied every night >tfw cant get court martialed for rapes or sued for child support because technically they raped me LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>noone asked anything whatsoever >"HEH I'm proud of being a zogbot, as long as we get to have a true democracy in the middle east it was all worth it" ok boomer
