B2W2 and SwSh are tied for the worst mainline Pokemon games. This is not up for debate

B2W2 and SwSh are tied for the worst mainline Pokemon games. This is not up for debate.

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What a ridiculous attempt to smear BW2 by linking it to SwSh. Only thing that sucked about BW2 was Hugh.

What a ridiculous attempt to smear SwSh by linking it to BW2. Only thing that sucked about SwSh was the dexcut.

BW2 has some neat endgame content, but I can't say I care about the progression. Its so demotivating.

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two of these happen at the first two badges and the middle one is literally a gag about roadblocks
acting like the progression in pokemon has ever been anything but route -> gym -> route -> gym is an idiot
the only difference between gens 5-8 is that they're upfront about them being roadblocks, while gen 1-4 hid them using HMs. and guess what, people fucking hated HMs. they hated their progression being stopped because of an arbitrary move that you can't use without a gym badge because (???). and they hated having to carry HM slaves (upwards of 2 in some cases) just to progress and get items.
so gen 5 and 6 barely used the HMs, and made progression locked to roadblocks. gen 7 did away with HMs all together in favor of the poke rides. gen 8 (BDSP included) also did this. but the same formula existed.
and if your argument for "what's different between not being able to progress because you don't have an HM vs not being able to progress because of a physical roadblock" is """immersion""" than you need to question why your Pokemon needs an HM to do simple tasks like surfing or cutting a tree.

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lets not forget the "you can pass because you don't want to scare the tauros" moment

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or how about not being able to access the gym in a city you just entered because you don't have the HM for it? oh but it's more """immersive""" because you can't just walk the fuck around it or have a fire pokemon burn it down or some shit. HM01 Cut makes it so much more interesting!

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is this the roadblock thread now?

how about this "vicious" sandstorm that all you need to get passed is a pair of dollar tree pool goggles?

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and lets not forget this classic

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how about this guy? can't pass him until you beat falkner

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Nice try but hgss and gsc are way worse.

Literally every single pokemon game is shit. Play a good series instead.

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good bait, almost fell for it

this but the forced pokestar studios tutorial

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>pokestar studios
one of the most kino parts of the entire game
i pray for the xyzoomers who never got to appreciate how much soul this had

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