Human Works > Nature

>Human Works > Nature
Simple as.

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>Nature > Human Works
Simple as.

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>women
>""""""""human"""""""""
Holy shit, gamefreak is based.

>90 defense

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Powers beyond your comprehension > Human Works

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>can't learn every TM
ngmi

Crabhammer

That's literally proof that human works are better.

>made by a woman
HuMAN, not Huwoman

Are you telling me Dracovish isn't a supreme life form?

That's actually a good point.
If Mewtwo is meant to be Mew but better, why can't it learn every TM like Mew can?

hit its head to hard in the tube
why else do you think it was so strong with amnesia in gen 1

mewtwo is more specialized for combat purposes

shut the fuck up zoomer you werent even alive when rgby came out

My long-held opinion (that's also the only right one) is that for Pokemon, especially legendary Pokemon, battle power and magnitude of their influence on the world is two entirely different metrics. Like, a rampaging Gyarados can destroy entire villages just by being a huge destructive snake with elemental powers, and an Onyx probably could too as long as there's no sprinklers involved (and a Milotic, in turn, could calm both without even battling them); yet neither is a better battler than an Ursaring (which is peaceful in its pokedex entries, would probably do less damage even if it went on a rampage, and has no elemental powers) or a Medicham (which has its powers mostly revolve around using psychic senses to augment its USE FIST and DODGE IT options).

I mean, that's really the only way Arceus makes sense in-game. The Sinnoh Trio and Yveltal, too.

So when the scientists tried to make the world's most powerful Pokemon, they did succeed — in the battling sense. Arceus IS a being capable of creating universes and remaking lords of time and space, in its own deific ritual-casting way; and Giratina can, in the right circumstances, just NOPE any given Pokemon into the Distortion World. BUT when it comes to "two Pokemon get into a ring and dish it out, using their powers OFFENSIVELY while simultaneously trying not to get hit, until one of them faints from the beating or exhaustion", Arceus is not the most efficient possible fighter. In its plateless state (which notably is actually BETTER at fighting but is stated as weaker lore-wise), there's a real (and pretty decent) chance that Arceus' overestimation of its powers and lack of combat experience will conspire against Him, and Mewtwo that awakened an aura sense in addition to its psychic powers (i. e. got that sweet Aura Sphere, which IIRC it now learns on a level-up), being a born and made combatant, will beat Him into the ground with less trouble than it would have against Mawile.

After all, an Arceus deals less damage using Psychic with His Psychic plate than Mewtwo does by focusing its power through a twisted spoon. I can hear the cries of "that's gameplay, not lore", but isn't the gameplay supposed to convey something about the lore? If Arceus, holding a Plate that gives Him dominion over the entire domain of psychic powers, tries to crush a tin plant with His psychic powers, Mewtwo's power beats Him flat and square.

252+ SpA Mind Plate Arceus-Psychic Psychic vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Ferrothorn: 60-72 (17 - 20.4%)
252+ SpA Mewtwo Psychic vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Ferrothorn: 60-72 (17 - 20.4%)
252+ SpA Twisted Spoon Mewtwo Psychic vs. 252 HP / 232+ SpD Ferrothorn: 72-86 (20.4 - 24.4%)

It's not some complicated moveset optimisation, it's a simple comparison using all the same variables against the same target. It's what the games tell us against their powers in the psychic powers department.

Of course Arceus has a lot more up His hoof (and Mewtwo pack a pair of tricks as well). He can use its Judgement instead of a common Psychic attack (but Mewtwo can overpower even that in its Y-mode). He can beat Mewtwo using His versatility instead of trying to out-power it on Mewtwo's own field of expertise (and vice versa). And obviously Mewtwo can't create a universe, or a living being. It's just _stronger in battle_ than God. That's the specific power level it was engineered to have.

To me, at least, this makes for a better story, a better world, than "lol Arceus is omnipotent it just chooses to be defeatable".

See also: Superman vs. literal god Darkseid.

So with that in mind…

>AUTO-WINS… IF IT'S ON A PROTAGONIST'S TEAM
Victini. Like, it's a supposed hax that fails to find a gameplay reflection.

>THE CHEATERS
Hoopa-Unbound, which apparently can pull anything or anyone it needs out of its extradimensional ass.
Marshadow and Ditto, both of which can mimic anyone's power. Marshadow's imitation can explicitly outperform the real deal eventually.

>THE MOST POWERFUL POKEMON™
Mewtwo, which took the best of Mew's genetical potential (which, in turns, includes every single pokemon's genetic potential) and is at the peak of pokemonkind's biological/energetical/metaphysical capacity for raw power. Note that it's about the capacity, not the ability — Mewtwo as shown is young and extremely inexperienced compared to what it could become (thus its reliance on psychic powers; though it is an intuitive user of Aura too, and its Mega-X form is a proof that its capacity for physical development is no less formidable if it chose to develop that way).
Moreover, it has two flaws that might (or might not) truly prevent it from eventually becoming a true godlike being. First, it's engineered for battle, so humans took out what they perceived as unnecessary — that is, the potential for "peaceful" powers; Mewtwo can literally rend space and roar the time just like Palkia and Dialga do, but can it dig, dive, transform? Does it have power over earth or a lowly twister? Nope.
And the second flaw is that its mental, especially emotional, development has been stunted, thus in turn stunting the development of Mewtwo's powers. Perhaps one day it will solve all of its issues and start on a road to self-perfection, but until it happens, all this more-than-godlike potential is trapped inside a being that's too flawed to properly wield them.
Outside of the violence.

>The RUNNERS-UP
Deoxys, which is a super-adaptable, newly-introduced to PokeEarth being (pokemon or not) that can, and had, extremely adapted to extreme violence.
Uxie and Azelf, if they choose to invoke their powers
FUG, which polices other legends and defends the sky from evils like Deoxys and, worse, Cleffa.
Arceus, which is still a creator god and a master of all 18 elements.
Zacian and Zamazenta, according to their rep.

>UNLIMITED RAW POWER, NOT ENOUGH CONTROL TO USE IT COMPETENTLY
Necrozma in its fused/Ultra states and Eternatus.

woMAN

Aren't all moves combat moves, though?

Reminder that we only see 1/1000 of Arceus's power at once.

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because the game was thrown together for a dead handheld by half a dozen japanese
and THEN it took over the planet and become a global cultural behemoth
that being said mew's move pool is dog shit, i would trade recover for soft boiled any day

sorry i meant soft boiled for recover
pre nerf recover had 20 base PP 2x that of soft boiled

I theorize the reason Mew learns every move is that they just didn't delimit his moves when inserting it at the last moment.
Mewtwo was entirely written before Mew, so he was just "good psychic mon".