ITT: Mid-stage Pokemon that are better than their final evolution

ITT: Mid-stage Pokemon that are better than their final evolution.

I'll start with pic related.

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Rhydon

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Same principle, i think

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I just think they're neat.

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Ivysaur
Wartortle
Bayleaf
Quilava
Grovyle

>Unovan
Yes
>Hisuian
No

Shelgon

thank you for finally starting the thread

Posting facts

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OP said better

None of them.

>Charmeleon
WARTORTLE

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Yes, which is why he posted a midevo that's better than the final stage, Samurott. Glad that you can see we're on track.

>perfect line
no

/thread

Based
Cringe

pic unrelated
pic extremely related

>perfect line
>up until the 3rd stage where it massively shits itself with poor execution
correct

Togetic looks better than Togekiss imo. I also prefer Magmar, and Electabuzz to a lesser extent, to their new evolutions.

>perfect line, including the 3rd stage where it massively builds on the previous stages and is just as based-looking, if not more
FTFY

Hisuian is an also yes

Damn near all of them. Mid stage is peak. Going further almost* always ruins the mon

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Happy to disagree, but stay wrong

When will people finally realize that those who like Samurott don't actually hate its pre-evolutions?

>When will people finally realize that those who like Samurott mindlessly lap up whatever GF shits out?
everyone knows this already

another thread ruined by bald seethe

>liking good designs is lapping shit up
This is even funnier if you're someone who unironically likes games that came out after gen 5, let alone probably shill those starters. Tell me more about incelroar's contributions