The Great Debate: Who is the best girl between these two?
The Great Debate: Who is the best girl between these two?
Ethan Sullivan
Owen Reed
Lickitung
David Bailey
They are male, so none
Luke Davis
I like the Uff line more.
Parker Adams
Pii Pii!
Anthony Collins
Clefable and it's not even close
Michael Allen
TUFFBROS WW@
Ryder Bell
I like Wiggly line more but Gamefreak definitely favours Clefable line a lot more. It's actually not even fair.
Daniel Nelson
Clefable is more sexy to me but there is so little porn of her
Robert Peterson
Clefable line outclasses Wiggly line BUT Wiggly line wins aesthetically
Elijah Rivera
Clefairy line has been my favourite Pokémon since I was a kid. With that said, I think it's a shame Wigglytuff is the middle child of the pink Kanto blobmons in terms of its usability, because I like the other two as well, but there's not much that could be done besides rebalancing its stats and/or giving it a new broke ability. Game Freak love their pink blobs and have clearly tried a little bit because they corrected its awful Gen I Special, and in Gen VI gave it the Fairy type and the same Sp. Atk boost as Clefable, but really it would need a more drastic rethink to avoid feeling like a slower, less hard-hitting Clefable. On the other hand, it's probably more popular and visible than Chansey and Clefable, so maybe it's fair.
Camden Gonzalez
jiggly
Isaiah Gonzalez
>I think it's a shame Wigglytuff is the middle child of the pink Kanto blobmons
Which is kind of weird considering Jigglypuff's importance in the early anime and marketing leading to significant popularity even outside the fandom itself.
You'd think they would have gotten something by now.
Alexander Ortiz
Guess Jigglypuff didn't have that much staying power. Wigglytuff should've gotten huge power.
Robert Rivera
cleffa she is made for sex. final evos suck for both middle are both good. igglybuff sucks also
the lines should be combined to it goes cleffa > jigglypuff with brown ears > clefairy
Christopher Morales
A lot of popular Gen I Pokémon suffer from this not out of malice but probably just because it's hard to correct these things short of rebalancing or handicaps (like Charizard's Megas). Pikachu itself is absolutely awful to use in Yellow—worse than Wigglytuff because at least the latter has a little bulk and can use STAB Body Slam. Given its inflated HP stat, I suspect they intended Wigglytuff to be a kind of midground between Clefable and Chansey, but that just made it worse than both. Unlike Pikachu, it also benefitted from the splitting of the Special stat in Gen II, which I suspect was an intentional attempt to make it more usable, but it obviously wasn't enough.
In hindsight, Wigglytuff probably should've been made more physically oriented to fill a different niche to Clefable. Clefable has just been lucky since its original stats were solid, its movepool was nuts, it was given good abilities, and there was no way the "Fairy Pokémon" wasn't going to get Fairy typing, so I think it's just a beneficiary of cumulative decisions that gave it more advantages rather than a deliberate handicap. Wigglytuff has been given a few similar boosts but because they've all been pointed in the same direction as Clefable (Fairy typing, Sp. Atk increases), it just ends up playing second fiddle to it instead of having its own identity.
Eli Bailey
That would have been pretty cool, like Brock's Happiny in the anime.
Brayden Torres
Pippi!
Noah Thompson
Is that what they say?
Weird.
Eli James
>Wigglytuff
>girl
Cameron Wright
it's not even a debate, clefable solos any day of the week no contest