You have a delusion a chart shows you reality; you know nothing; in reality the big money is not even on the chart. The big money is off the chart; they manipulate the price before you even see it; you see the past.
List of dark pools
Independent dark pools
Chi-X Global Instinet Liquidnet NYFIX Millennium Posit/MatchNow from Investment Technology Group (ITG) State Street's BlockCross RiverCross Securities SmartPool TORA Crosspoint ETF One Codestreet Dealer Pool for Corporate Bonds
Broker-dealer-owned dark pools
JP Morgan - JPMX Barclays Capital - LX Liquidity Cross BNP Paribas - BNP Paribas Internal eXchange (BIX) BNY ConvergEx Group (an affiliate of Bank of New York Mellon) Cantor Fitzgerald - Aqua Securities Citadel Connect - Citadel Citi - Citi Match, Citi Cross Credit Agricole Cheuvreux - BLINK Credit Suisse - CrossFinder Deutsche Bank Global Markets - DBA (Europe), SuperX ATS (U.S.) Fidelity Capital Markets GETCO - GETMatched Goldman Sachs SIGMA X Knight Capital Group - Knight Link, Knight Match Merrill Lynch - Instinct-X Morgan Stanley - MSPOOL Nomura - Nomura NX UBS Investment Bank - UBS ATS, UBS MTF, UBS PIN Societe Generale - ALPHA Y Daiwa - DRECT Wells Fargo Securities LLC - WELX - has since closed
like, at some point some bitcoins are actually bought or sold on chain right? and not just in some centralized orderbook. does knowing when and how much reveal anything on a macro scale at least? we probably don't even know the wallets maybe they do it in big lump sums or maybe they stagger it out. where do they get their bitcoins do they even have any?
Lincoln Harris
Any serious reading material besides the wiki page, please ?
Ryder Richardson
this isn't even a conspiracy this is just how shit works im just learning of it now but makes total sense.
>>One of the main advantages for institutional investors in using dark pools is for buying or selling large blocks of securities without showing their hand to others and thus avoiding market impact, as neither the size of the trade nor the identity are revealed until some time after the trade is filled. However, it also means that some market participants are disadvantaged, since they cannot see the orders before they are executed; prices are agreed upon by participants in the dark pools, so the market is no longer transparent.[ straight from the wiki article on dark pools
Aiden Myers
how the fuck does someone get in on this? might as well just join them and make money instead of bitching about it.
Charles Rogers
and then they sell the normie the delusion, "that provides stability to the market". this is straight up stockholm syndrome shit.
Nathaniel Foster
you have to be already rich, which is a circular argument like "you have to have experience to get a job but you can't get a job without having experience". it's all a con.
Luke Flores
You buy shares in investment banks, which don't even necessarily always win, even when they have cheatcodes on.
Zachary Roberts
true
Hunter Lee
another con, a share pool is an unstable unlimited supply, you depend even more on them that way.
Ian Morales
>>It was only a matter of time. Dark pools, which are notorious for their anonymous transactions, are making their presence felt in cryptocurrency markets. >>Approximately 40 percent of all trading in stocks was away from regulated exchanges in 2016. In December 2017, dark pools accounted for about one-quarter of the 38 percent overall of such trading. But such transactions have had limited effect on stock market movements because there are caps governing the amount and extent of trades that can take place within dark pools. no such limits in crypto >>In the WSJ piece, Taiyang Zhang, Republic Protocol’s 21-year-old founder, said he expects his dark pool to account for $9 billion worth of trading in cryptocurrencies on a monthly basis. For context, bitcoin itself racked up trading volumes of more than $10 billion within the last 24 hours. (See also: Should You Be Afraid Of Dark Pool Liquidity?) investopedia.com/news/number-dark-pools-cryptocurrency-trading-increasing/ feb 2018
Samuel Walker
The solution is to keep exposing them. Their biggest fear is the normie to know what they're doing. They will never let you in unless you are already rich so fuck them.
Sebastian Fisher
so to establish a timeline
dark pools aren't new, but since 2007 they really exploded in popularity across the stonks market, from the wiki: >>The next big development in dark pools came in 2007 when the SEC passed Regulation NMS (National Market System), this allowed investors to bypass public exchanges to gain price improvements. The effect of this was to attract a number of new players to the market and a large number of dark pools were created over the next 10 years. This was spurred on with the improvements of technology and increasing speed of execution as high-frequency trading took advantage of these dark pools.[citation needed] but there caps in place on stonks dark pools
2018 and the first crypto dark pools emerge. we have now been under 4 years of dark pools and whatever effect they have on the market. what percentage of overall trade is now coming from dark pools? will this be regulated like the caps in stonks or will it continue uncapped and what effects would regulations capping crypto dark pools have.
Lucas Ortiz
how the fuck has this never occurred to me
>at some point some bitcoins are actually bought or sold on chain right you'd think but i cant imagine what's stopping them from introducing it slow enough or mixed enough to completely evade detection
dark pools don't affect the price at all. its just 2 independent consenting entities engaging in a transaction off market between each other. usually off market because the size or volume of ownership trading hands is to big, it wouldn't be allowed to be done in a single block otherwise it would cause too much disruption in the market. OP is a faggot.
Aiden Cook
> if we have 3 chickens, and 2 out of the 3 chickens are taken off the market to another country, it doesn't affect the market at all bruh
Jason Young
Based economically illiterate schizo
Julian Hill
>it would cause too much disruption in the market yes that's the usual excuse they sell the normies which is code for "shut the fuck up normie and don't look at the real price"
in case you still don't get it: you have no fucking clue if the sellers or the buyers are winning in the dark pool: you will learn about it after the fact and after the market has crashed or pumped without any warning to you and therefore without having any chance to reasonably predict it yourself because that's the entire point of what they're doing: to keep you in the dark.
