Here's a ranking of all the Pokemon games I've played. Been playing the series since 1999.
Legends is only great tier. Not best of the best IMO. The new gameplay systems are fucking amazing and carry what is otherwise a bit of a mess of a game on it's back. If Gamefreak can nail an interesting open world, decent graphics, and decent quest design next time we're golden, or even if they just keep it at this level of polish but add stuff like trainer battles and gyms and whatnot next time around. It's very unlikely that the next Legends style game won't get it's own tier above the rest of the series, in my opinion.
Gonna be honest Stadium 1 and 2 are entirely placed back on how they hit in the 90s.
Locking postgame to a separate game in 2022 would obviously be a dick move. But the fact that Stadium 1 and 2 gave you a postgame at all back in the day was mindblowing. You could sink your teeth into Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 for a year and still have stuff to do with your main game team once you've exhausted it of content. It's not entirely based on being in the 90s, if you played through crystal on cartridge today and then went and did Stadium 2 you'd have a great time. There's just a layer of obfuscation in experiencing the game today unfortunately.
2 is just 1 but better. Gen 2 battle enhancements and new Pokemon, new features, better graphics, etc. So 2 went on top and 1 went a tier below.
PBR didn't score higher because the content exhausts too quickly. It's made for normalfags to beat whereas Stadium 1 and 2 expect you to get sweaty
Aaron Gonzalez
Not OP but I made a tiermaker of this (with some other additions) for anyone interested.
>thinks colosseum and gale of darkness are good easiest sign of a retard judging things based on nostalgia instead of quality
Logan Taylor
>Assets look like a chinese bootleg >Mangles all the songs in the game, champion battle being the worst offender >Sevii islands are the most boring location in the series >Your Golbat failed to evolve! Your Golbat failed to evolve! >The worst of both worlds in terms of adaptation. Tries to change nothing, but doesn't go full-faithful on the mechanics, leaving it in an unsatisfying middle ground. FRLG is a disgusting mess of a graft job that Masuda cobbled together to save the series reputation after Hoenn and the lack of connectivity with the gameboy tanked interest.
William Ortiz
They're the only games in the series where your selection pool is limited enough that the devs can know what you're working with and design encounters around that. The games jointly have the best encounter design in the series. They don't have the exploration of the series at large, but they're the best battles in the series. The level curve is always right, you're constantly cycling Pokemon for great variety, the fights are fun and the later fights are challenging. The genius sonority gamecube games are bliss.
Liam Clark
>FRLG are shit remakes. Pic related Not that user but they took the base games, which have a great region design and great pokemon designs, and improved it with color, bug fixes, abilities, new typings, updated movesets for Pokemonbut didnt do it the nu-pokemon way of slapping a ton of coverage moves on, and added the Sevii Islands which, while only a few hours of gameplay, did add some more Johto Pokemon for you to catch, and bridged the gap between gens I and II story wise. Its also kino seeing the Elite 4 improve after beating the Sevii Islands and use Johto Pokemon as well. >Your Golbat failed to evolve! Your Golbat failed to evolve! This is definitely one of the worst things the remakes did.
>They're the only games in the series where your selection pool is limited enough that the devs can know what you're working with and design encounters around that And yet it's still just as easy as every mainline game where you do nothing but mash A with the same two leads the entire game to beat everything.
>The games jointly have the best encounter design in the series Yeah, killing the entire point of the series is good design.
>but they're the best battles in the series Literally any game with battle facilities has better battles than Colossuem and Gale of Darkness do.
It's interesting that people on the Pokemon board are so fucking terrible at Pokemon games.
James Russell
>Nooooo you have to like MY childhood version of Kanto! >Cringe cringe cringe cringe! No version of Kanto is amazing but RBY at least have glitching, abusing the jank battle mechanics to fun ends, and credit for being first.
FRLG are ugly as sin by the numbers remake that don't even do a good job of what they set out to do.
>updated movesets for Pokemonbut didnt do it the nu-pokemon way of slapping a ton of coverage moves on *cough cough charmander metal claw cough* FRLG suck.
Luis Diaz
NTA but the battle facilities arent that good outside of the Emerald Tower, Dome, Pyramid and Dojo Also no, Crystal has a battle facility and theres not a single battle there better than the boss battles in Colosseum/XD
Owen Price
>NTA but the battle facilities arent that good outside of the Emerald Tower, Dome, Pyramid and Dojo Colosseum and Gale of Darkness aren't that good period, in fact they're actually very bad.
Ayden Richardson
>One coverage move >Only hits two types, one of which fire is super effective against >Is a physical attack with low power so its shit against the first gym, as well as most rock types in general Woah......
Why exactly is crystal so low? I bet you haven’t even played it
Bentley Lee
>in fact they're actually very bad Hello yes where's the proof?
There's almost no encounters in the main games of the Pokemon series anywhere close to Greevil and Evice
Austin Ramirez
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Alexander White
>Assets look like a chinese bootleg they look good, gen 1 in color >Mangles all the songs in the game, champion battle being the worst offender MUH MOOSIC >Sevii islands are the most boring location in the series postgame kino, almost on the level of GSC. half a new region to explore >Your Golbat failed to evolve! Your Golbat failed to evolve! this is a legitimate complaint, affects like 2 pokemon? though >The worst of both worlds in terms of adaptation. Tries to change nothing, but doesn't go full-faithful on the mechanics, leaving it in an unsatisfying middle ground. it added abilities, held items, color, gen 2 and 3 mons, etc. Gameplay is considerably different than gen 1
Henry Johnson
Theres only one coverage move on that list
Kevin Hughes
>Hello yes where's the proof? The piss easy difficulty if you're not retarded and don't waste exp on the pointless shitmons the game tries to get you to use? The zero exploration? The slow as fuck tedious battles? The lack of features compared to literally every GF game?
Where's the proof that they're good?
>There's almost no encounters in the main games of the Pokemon series anywhere close to Greevil and Evice Literally every totem in USUM is more challenging and literally every battle facility fight is more challenging.
