> saw young couple making out on a park bench today and about to loose my 120 day nofap streak
I’m closer to 25 than 20 yo soon and never texted a girl or held hands with a girl really. I never even had an conversation with one
The pain is so fucking deep guys I can’t handle it anymore It’s impossible to meet new people or girls, literally impossible. I can’t even get matches because I don’t have pictures of doing things outside with other people
I'm a similar age to you and currently live a similar life, but have had sex and all that stuff in the past. It's honestly not that big of a deal once you have but I get that you can't possibly feel that way if you haven't. So I'd recommend you just treat it like some weird video game and do all the requirements like picking up a hobby for a dating profile just so you can get it out of the way and chill out
Jace Peterson
Jesus loves you brother. Pray for a virtuous wife.
Aiden Clark
You need to be in the field doing real shit, tinder/ratings apps is hypergamy on steroids, if you don't have the pictures or you're not in 20% of men don't bother with that shit. If you have friend groups use them to get close to women, you are behind and lacking in experience. By the fact that you said you are 25 and have never had a conversation with one you are probably ugly/autistic or a larper, either way you need to put yourself in position to be near women and take some Ls and learn a bit. Watching from the sidelines and reveling is pointless.
Anthony Bailey
I’m 35 never had a gf, handholdless kissless hugless virgin
It’s a vicious cycle
You miss out, then you feel behind and avoid it, then you fall behind even more, and the proceed to avoid even more, then you feel so far behind you just officially give up and stop trying.
It’s been about 4 years since I last tried, got 0 results of course.
I couldn’t get a gf at 15, 20, 25, 30, so at 35 now, haven’t tried since 31. I’ve accepted my HHKV lifestyle and have gone full coomer mode
Aiden Nelson
But user there are plenty of women that love ugly autistic larpers
Ryan Sanders
Post pics of yourselves pls
Cameron Johnson
I’m a boring rational person albeit with dark humor but no interest in having large social surroundings, social media presence or in general live a life to signal status to the outside world ( at least not before I make it ) Girls are completely repulsed by my lack of experience No one dates a guy with out a big friend group. I’m justed
Aiden Brown
im not ugly i think, im just not fun to be around.
Nathan Wright
why do you want to be with women
lets start with that first
Leo Morris
Ironically similar to you, but the opposite. Khhv till my 30s, then I decided that I would change. Started hitting the gym and taking care of myself. Also started grinding social interactions like its an mmo. Legit challenged myself to talk to as many random people as possible every day. It helps that I go to the gym of course and that allows me to meet people. But the point was to embarass myself while learning the social game with strangers, so that when I actually met a cutie, I wouldnt make any newbie mistakes.
Result? Am 33, with a gf of 6 months. The relationship has been quite troublesome and it made me reconsider, at times, why I even went through all this trouble. But hey, at least I crossed all that shit off my list. Now I know what it feels like to have a gf and I can proudly say that its fucking troublesome. But I dont say this as some random incel for Any Forums, I say it as someone who pulled himself up to earn it, and found out that what everyone said was quite correct.
Women are just fucking annoying.
Bentley Howard
Glad to hear it, thanks for proving my sentiments here were correct
David Hughes
Nothing about your life changes when you get a gf or wife, you just literally have another person to take care of/who takes care of you, assuming it's not abusive.
Is right, it really is a numbers game at some point -- social skills are just that: SKILLS. You have to learn them, it's why people are big proponents of public schooling vs home schooling.
same desu, at least you got to 120 day nofap I cant even do that
Christopher Cook
Because I want to coom in pussy
Joseph Garcia
>It’s impossible to meet new people or girls, literally impossible. I can’t even get matches because I don’t have pictures of doing things outside with other people
Try to not be a pussy for once. Get off your iCuck and go to a bar by yourself and make friends and meet girls. Thats what I did.
t. no social media and fucked double digit number of girls with some of them being 9/10s
I don’t drink or smoke, and I’m not about to start
Jose Campbell
this user fucking gets it lol I went through it all at a younger age but god damn women fucking suck.
You literally have to treat them like a pimp would or something to have a good relationship. You have to be fucking mean and invulnerable at all times so that they are afraid to bother you all the time and complain all the time and yeah I just hate it. Everything becomes adversarial in the end if you dont want to submit to being her bitch boy errand runner and attention/validation dispenser. Troublesome is a good word for them.
John Perez
>Honey... wh-why is that man staring at us like that?
If you have high anxiety and cannot into social skills through other means then youre kind of throwing away the one ace up your sleeve.
I guess its exposure therapy for you then. Get ready to face so much rejection that it no longer phases you and literally burn the bitch inside of you to death with fire.
or just capitulate and get deep into manga or whatever
Dylan Bennett
You’re probably hideous, in which case why are you so delusional. I mean I’m personally hideous so I’ve known since since I was 12/13 that I’d always be alone and as a result it never affected me. Didn’t your classmates make fun of your appearance? Well they should have, mine did and I’m grateful for that.
Michael Russell
After being a virgin until 22, I went out there, behaved like a normie and landed a girl. 5/10 but still could do things you see chads do. It's short-term fun and leaves you depressed afterwards. Go for long-term passion projects instead. Dont waste your time with relationships
Jayden Murphy
there's your answer. work on your demeanor. try doing activities out of your comfort zone. style your hair better, buy nicer clothes. i promise you there is someone out there for you
Blake Baker
>I can’t even get matches because I don’t have pictures of doing things outside with other people pro tip from an experienced olderfag: do things outside with people and take pics it's an easy solution to an identified problem. it matters. women care about it, and they're not wrong to. most women don't want to date friendless loner shut-ins. they want to date people who lead interesting lives and interact with the world. you don't have to go crazy with it, but you need to put yourself out there a bit. i can offer more advice if anyone's interested.
Christian Nguyen
>> saw young couple making out on a park bench today I also get mad envious until I remember that I've done this a few times and the whole experience is complete garbage a sweet short kiss on the lips is alright, hardcore makeout sessions are fucking trash
unprotected vaginal sex with creampie is the only aspect of lovemaking that lived up to the hype
lost my virginity at 22, now that I got over with it I dont give a fuck anymore. I havent had a gf in 3 years, losing your v-card takes a lot of pressure off your shoulders. now I only focus on money
Brayden Edwards
Do you live in europe or america? if you live in europe on can travel here stay in youth hostels, is a GREAT place to meet new people, I know from experience
Jayden Walker
Not just women, I know that most neets on this site would probably love a fellow neet, but that's until they start dating one lmao. Dating a girl who is literally the female equivalent of a neet (no skills or interests outside generic normie things) is not worth the effort no matter what delusions people on here have.
OP I know it's not comfortable but you either have to raise your self worth up or lower your standards. There are honestly some really great girls out there who aren't that pretty. You also can't approach women like you want a relationship or sex, it has to happen naturally. People can get a feel for when all you want is a relationship, it shows through mannerisms that you don't realize.
My current gf/fiance isn't the most beautiful girl I've dated but she's the happiest I've been with because we both have adhd and are super nerds and cosplay together. I've been happier with her than all my other relationships who were 9/10 girls. Don't count out imperfect looks.
Jaxson Cook
Your advice is fucking gay lol. Dating apps are a nonstarter. Its a terrible fucking oversaturated market for all but the most chad among us. Women have all the power and when they start off with the power youre never going to wrestle it back from them.
You know whats easier than doing all that for a neat looking instagram? Fucking lying. Lying is much easier and it allows you to get a girl right now instead of yet another excuse for these pussies.
>ill meet a girl when i have 4 million dollars >ill meet a girl after I get shredded at the gym >ill meet a girl when I have a bad ass instagram with 9 thousand followers
all fucking excuses and wastes of time if it prevents you from meeting girls
Carson Ross
I’m in your exact position , what can we do man
Brayden Watson
>ill meet a girl when i have 4 million dollars >ill meet a girl after I get shredded at the gym >ill meet a girl when I have a bad ass instagram with 9 thousand followers I have all those things and I still don't know how to meet or talk to girls. Guess I'll just die alone.