I think I have a good cosmological argument for God

It is a proven observable fact that any product out of a natural state requires free will, i.e a choice maker.
Likewise the universe, a product out of the state of nothingness, requires free will, i.e a choice maker.
This is political.

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The means for the product requires, intelligence.

An intricate and consistent product requires attention and purpose.

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How do I get to Christianity as short as possible?

>It is a proven observable fact that any product out of a natural state requires free will, i.e a choice maker
There is no such thing as free will
>Likewise the universe, a product out of the state of nothingness, requires free will, i.e a choice maker.
A shit presupposition. How many "choice makers" are there? Who are they?

>An intricate and consistent product
Can you give examples of what you're talking about instead of rambling nonsense?

>any product out of a natural state requires free will
I am a theist, and this is just stupid.

What are you, a product endowed with reasoning, intelligence, common sense, logic and free will like the ultimate one's purpose?
To use it.

>and free will
No such thing
>ultimate one's purpose
Another nebulous phrase.

>prove to me you had a dream
>i cant
>then you didn't because you can't prove it

>>There is no such thing as free will
>I don't agree.
>>How many "choice makers" are there?
>How many champions are there?
>I am a theist
Hmmm.
>this is just stupid.
Not an argument.

And when you use it, you find the eternal ultimate thought behind it.

>There is no such thing as free will
Verifiably false. You can literally make a choice whether or not to jerk off today.

>>>There is no such thing as free will
>>I don't agree.
They're called consequences. You are forever bound by them and every choice you make has consequences.
>>>How many "choice makers" are there?
>How many champions are there?
You haven't define what a "choice maker" or "champion" you keep adding in more nonsense.

>Verifiably false. You can literally make a choice whether or not to jerk off today.
>They're called consequences. You are forever bound by them and every choice you make has consequences.
Try again

ESL?

>They're called consequences.
Which has an effect on?
>I don't know what a choice maker or champion means
Not surprising.

>a product out of the state of nothingness
not a proven, observable fact
go refine your axiom

The argument is that there is no perceptible argument there, you pathetic nitwit.
Why would a "product of a natural state" be related to "free will" in any way? Explain and maybe I'll grant that there may be some point buried in there somewhere.

>Which has an effect on?
Everyone
>>I don't know what a choice maker or champion means
>Not surprising.
Now you're strawmanning again. You don't know what they are either. That's why you can't define them in your own words.