I am pondering what an anonymous decentralized messaging app with crypto and blockchain tech would look like. Maybe a tree structure so you can post breadth wise to avoid posts meant to derail discussion. Posts destroy currency but successive replies pay in series to root so it costs to post but you get paid if you are in a line of posts that keeps getting replies. Torrent based so currency is created by those who host service, this way if feds want to post they have to support the network which is counter productive and their posts won’t get play any way because of tree structure so the incentive is lost. Currency is anonymous. Political discussion implications.
Decentralized messaging app for politics
This isn't just average everyday libertarianism.
This is ADVANCED libertarianism.
>anonymous decentralized messaging app
Already exists, it's called Briar.
Dear confused,
If you want something decentralized, then you can't control it from the center without making it centralized. If any one person or rule controls access, then it is centralized.
If you decentralize control by allowing each person to exclude the posts of others, then the macro outcome has to be either that one group takes control by being the ones left, or that the forum separates into those that are excluded and those that are not. Both then are centralizations in the macro view.
Basically you are missing the point of what it is you are trying to do, because you are fooling yourself by your own confusion.
Either there is a media that all can participate in, or there is a media that is broadcast, or there is a media that is private that excludes those they don't like.
Choose. Then we can discuss "distributed networks" which have to do with the "medium" not the media or the message, which is what blockchain is used for.
But before you do that, you should look up the terms "hypocrisy" and "psychological projection."
Matrix protocol
Good encryption over IP messaging
The internet was originally decentralized, use it's features to create secure communication networks
You can sign a message on the bitcoin blockchain with a transaction. Encrypt your message with a private key. Much better than the likes of bitmessage. If you'd like a bit better privacy use Monero.
Also fuck glowniggers.
So a bait generator
Let's drop the crypto and blockchain bullshit.
Other than that I think we should make our own protocol that can work over bluetooth, radio, cable, etc.
I was thinking we could have a way to archive things using our pooled resources.
I was also thinking we should make a social network that is focused on memes making local friends, and meeting similar people, a built in photo editor, people can make their own custom algorithms for newsfeed priorities so we don't have anyone controlling who sees what.
This has nothing to do with libertarianism
XMPP you fucking nigger.
I think I meant forum not messaging app. So it’s a public forum that is supported by torrent.
We need our own version of the web, not just messaging. We need a big incentive for people to switch, a whole redesign to make it more fun, social, and strengthen our bonds is a must.
This already exists through i2p
What about everyone can just post but they have to host thier own posts/sites people who like and want to support them can sign up to seed/host thier posts/sites just like in bit torrent.
I love this idea, thanks for coming up with this solution. What about measuring the "realness" of a post in terms of views or some kind of interaction it gets other than more posts? What's stopping fed shills from just shilling their own posts? They do print the money. Consider Any Forums - feds own it and keeping it online is more beneficial to them than closing it down because they can coopt the boards ideology.
We need users who have developed some type of reputation and weigh the posts/views/reads based on that maybe? Shills get outed easily but they can thrive in an environment where there is no interaction.
memeflag was on
>iews or some kind of interaction it gets other than more posts?
No need. We can use stylometry.
Poor fags are silenced.
Only the elite can espouse high IQ takes.
*environment where there is no interaction.
I meant an environment where everyone is user. If you buckbreak a shill they can just move on, no way to track other than writing style. You can use public keys to be user and also have a rep.
Yeah we can have a GAN run to detect known shills typing style and have a bot flag all posts that match it. If not censor at list highlight the post as a shill's.
Can you tell us about it?
How can we implement real life politics in a bit torrent like fashion? Can a graph of human influence/connection IRL be ran by a bittorent like system with user tracker/peer swarms, where a leader gives objectives but the network can switch trackers it follows at any time in case they lose confidence in the leadership? This is kind of a blend of centralized/decentralized leadership.
And no I'm not talking about anything illegeal, the tracker would decide what canadiates to support/what causes etc. Even if the results aren't apparent to the seeders/peers (much like in real life). But this system at least holds them accountable and allows hot swapping the political leadership without sacrificing the network of actors.
*only paid shills
I think that some type of weighed voting system by anons who have good posts could be implemented to break the graph
Tpbp?
boomp
XMPP protocol
>Yeah we can have a GAN run to detect known shills typing style and have a bot flag all posts that match it. If not censor at list highlight the post as a shill's.
Yeah don't sensor the bots. Sometimes irate autismo user's bot their message to boost signal. Just flag it as 'likely a bot' and have a +/- to hide/show
trees grow upward, you silly programmer
exactly. Just having filters would go a long way. we need a protocol to send them around.
>ADVANCED libertarianism
Fed poster faggot.
How much do you earn to watch shitposting?
What's the role of crypto and blockchain?
>you get paid if you are in a line of posts that keeps getting replies
ayo so u be sayin i could make money farming (you)s?
Yeah not sure if that should be incentivized ; promotes clickbait
someone has to fund the AI network that will do the on the fly Stylometry
We already solved decentralized forums before the www even existed, check out NNTP. Overcomplicating your design with fancy structures and crypto will mean no one will bother implementing it and it will become a one implementation design (practically the antithesis of decentralization).
Use existing technology, like I2P or Tor for anonymization and then build a chat application on top of it, but it's already been done before. Check out Tox, Retroshare, Briar and a few others I've forgotten.
>Matrix protocol
This is easily the most cancer protocol in existence, speaking from a software development standpoint. Something like NNTP would be far better and way more simple. They've overcomplicated the design of Matrix to the point where even pagination is complicated... and yes, you can retrofit private groups into NNTP, and it's such a simple design that you slap I2P or Tor onto it and you've got a solution.
Question: Does the network have to be open source or would you trust closed source but likely uncracked by the feds encryption/decentralization protocol