Constantly threatening nuclear war and mobilization before immediately backing down when the West calls your retarded bluff is absolutely nigger-tier thought process. It makes you look like a impotent faggot to your enemies and it makes it impossible to know what your actual uncrossable redlines really are.
At least China only gets their second-hand tabloids to make their retarded threats for them and even they don't do it very often.
>and it makes it impossible to know what your actual uncrossable redlines really are
that's the point. it literal russian limited nuclear doctrine.
Yeah, and it's retarded. It literally weakens your own position because if the enemy just pushes on your (((states))) boundaries, you have to decide whether or not that you are welling to end the world.
With something like the dead hand, the West has to decide whether or not they are welling to end the world.
>Constantly threatening nuclear war and mobilization before immediately backing down when Russia calls your retarded bluff is absolutely nigger-tier thought process. It makes you look like a impotent faggot to your enemies and it makes it impossible to know what your actual uncrossable redlines really are.
Ftfy
>Constantly threaten nuclear war over minor shit
>Obviously not taken seriously because the first redline that they pussied out on was states even giving weapons to Ukraine
>Threaten to nuke over Donbas
>West doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
>Threaten to nuke over Crimea
>West doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
>Threaten to nuke over strikes into Russia
>West doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
Ukraine is now literally crossing over into Belgorod and shelling the city
The west's inability to tell where the uncrossable redlines are is intentional on Russia's part though
Everybody seems to have degenerated in terms of political understanding in the past 15-20 years to the point that they seem to have completely forgotten that anything and everything that's published about open military conflicts in real time as of the time of said conflict is only propaganda for civilian normies
What's actually happening behind the scenes is the same kind of smoke filled room negotiation type stuff that happened during the cold war
Absolutely nothing has changed in that sense; the only difference compared to the past is that everybody is much more cucked and miserable
If you want to understand the actual meaning behind all of the random shit Russia does, watch any pre-2000 movie about the cold war. They don't give a fuck what any civilian from the west thinks about anything; all communication from Russia is either directly for the consumption of the west's top brass which the west's top brass fully understands, or directed propaganda to manipulate the western masses into sabotaging their own country, or both
The ultimate goal is actual full scale nuclear war which is geopolitcally justifiable in terms of tit-for-tat escalation. Russia fundamentally believes that MAD is no longer mutual due to advances in nuclear weapons technology, and I personally believe that they're not wrong about this
t. Russian with some limited Russian military experience from before the current Ukraine war
>Constantly threaten nuclear war over minor shit
>Obviously not taken seriously because the first redline that they pussied out on was states even giving troops to Sepratists
>Threaten to nuke over Donbas
>East doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
>Threaten to nuke over Crimea
>East doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
>Threaten to nuke over strikes into Kiev
>East doesn't give a shit and calls bluff
Russia is now literally crossing over into the entirety of Eastern Ukraine and shelling every city
I don't think the government is anywhere near as competent as you think it. The only reason I don't believe in retarded schizoid conspiracies is because I know for a fact that these glowniggers would be bragging about it on social media 24/7
Russia is absolutely willing to end the world in absolutely every sense of the MAD doctrine. There is nothing about the current world order that is strategically favorable to Russia; nuclear rubble is literally better and that has been Russia's position for decades
Call us geopolitical terrorists if you like, but it's only the west's complacent comfort in the post-WWII order that's made them forget that this was the exact attitude of all nations right up until the post-war pax Americana, which is known even to Americans to be on its last legs at this point even without Russia's help in doing it in
>hich is known even to Americans to be on its last legs at this point even without Russia's help in doing it in
American hegemony isn't just America. It's an entire global network of self-reinforcing interests that extend far beyond just an American flag. You faggots even admit this because you call globalhomo, but then you shitpost about how it's dying when its stronger than ever
Your mistake about this subject is in your understanding of what the "government" is
The US govt is a caged monster in the most literal way, by design
The actual people who make the decisions are hyper-intelligent and hyper-competent in an absolutely surreal way, are really literally able to do almost anything they want to any US citizen at any time right up to brutal torture without anyone finding out about it, and are constrained only by the democratic process. The political paralysis is built right into the structure of the US political system, because in the absence of the paralysis the US would likely be the most hyper-fascist society in of the entire 20th-21st century. The unwashed masses hate and fear the government and keep them constrained by their uninformed voting and constant scheduled election cycles, and the actual leaders keep it that way because they know that if this weren't the case their political rivals would have them brutally tortured to death sooner or later
I have significant experience with the US govt as well since I am a US citizen and have served in several govt and military capacities, so I know this for absolute fact
Do not underestimate the US govt; in a way it's very similar to Soviet-style propaganda based control but it's directed toward the mensch of the US to keep them placid and happy
This has been the way of the US ever since it was invented in the 18th century
Sure but every single one of the nations who have those interests is politically dead in the water both separately and together for decades already
Surely you can't have failed to hear about the constant lamentations in the west about the decline and fall of the pax Americana. Even if you don't agree that it's at an end, you must at least admit that it's under grave threat. Anything else is pure complacency of the worst sort
They bragged about installing zelensky, killing ghaddafi, arming bin laden, supplying cartels, and a bunch of other fucked up things. Not to say they hold the degree of control they claim to hold, only that they boast about it.
Overextension is the opposite of strength
You're geopolitical terrorists
>propaganda is propaganda
Yes, so?
I very much doubt that any top brass anywhere wants to engage in nuclear war, I do think that when there's a technology gap they will use it as cover shift their enemies priorities and advance in another area.
>You're geopolitical terrorists
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me user
>I very much doubt that any top brass anywhere wants to engage in nuclear war
You are simply factually and objectively wrong about this. What is your basis in actual evidence for this belief? I have been informed by actual top brass of several nations of their interest in engaging in nuclear war and their strategic reasons for this interest. What is your evidence for your belief to the contrary? Not evidence that would convince an user on the internet, but evidence that you have actually seen or heard that is responsible for your belief in the lack of such strategic interests. In the absence of such evidence, you're simply believing what you want to believe
>Surely you can't have failed to hear about the constant lamentations in the west about the decline and fall of the pax Americana
I do hear it and I note how its mostly coming from Western Europe, which is becoming even more extreme in their globohomo dominance and vestigial/revanchist governments like China that want to muscle in on the hegemony.
Globohomo isn't failing. America is failing because globohomo has outgrown it.
>Words can never hurt me
Have you ever heard the Riddle of Steel?
I've known quite a few missilemen, SAC folks, and pilots of some really 'neat' aircraft. Most are retired now, but some are still active. I'm just familiar with the mindset of those people. I know they WOULD do it pusb comes to shove, but they operate in a regime where they - in their heart of hearts - know they would show restraint. This is true on both sides. All plans, development, and strategy is laid with the intention of follow through, but the people in charge of these weapons know very well what they're capable of.
I'm actually surprised and taken aback by this opinion t b h
What makes you believe that globohomo will survive the actual large-scale wars to come that seem to be inevitable at this point, if not this year then the next and so on?
Sure but WORDS can never hurt me
If all you have is empty words, you're never going to motivate any of those people to do anything to me or anyone else
If mere rhetoric, even on a professional level beyond what you yourself can do, could motivate them to do anything then they would be fully cucked and dominated by Soviet propaganda since decades ago
The actual people in charge of all those weapons are selected for intelligence and loyalty right down to even genetics in a way that's difficult to understand for people who aren't part of that culture
I'm familiar with the culture only tangentially and in the periphery due to not being all that talented either by nature or nuture, and even I know that a million or even a billion people from the unwashed masses could never influence them, because if that were possible then even two or three people could influence them all the way to the end. Anyone who controls such things as WMDs or drones or torture weapons must be fully immune to ALL influence from mere rhetoric, propaganda, political shit-flinging and so on, or we would all be continuously tortured by now and so would they
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Checked and fuck these tourist niggers pilled
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I just realized I forgot the part I was going to say that would actually be relevant to you user
I've done all kinds of things in the past, and yet I've lived in Washington state since 2015 and to this very day I have yet to be captured and tortured by anyone, in spite of the peculiar lageristic nature of Washington state that only people who've lived here for years can understand
I have great confidence in the US political system because of this specific thing if nothing else
Many other states and many other residents of those states have fared much worse in the last few years
Checked and Perestroika glastnost pilled
>What makes you believe that globohomo will survive the actual large-scale wars to come that seem to be inevitable at this point, if not this year then the next and so on?
Because the fundamental memetic agent of globohomo is the concept of equality and acceptance, which is a relatively new principle that inevitably perpetuates globohomo. China is also affected by this memetic warfare agent, because marxism with Chinese characteristics pioneered by Deng Xiaoping when he opened up the Chinese markets and was psyop'd into believing that economic development and interactivity to reduce poverty is all that matters and that there won't be any longterm subversion of fundamental principles that go beyond political ideologies because it deals with the root values of a society that has remained consistent for 1000s of years in China