Are people really this delusional?

A lot of people that I have talked to think that it's not only possible, but that yes, Ukraine is/will win...
I am no talking about being right or wrong ethically, I'm just talking about the reality of it. And the reality is that without other countries intervention (real intervention) there is no way Ukraine will ever win against Russia, it's a disproportional force, it's just not possible. It's like Taiwan trying to defend itself against China without real intervention from other countries... Does Taiwan has the geographical position advantage? Yes, does it matter term? No.

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You are obsessed and mentally ill.

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this is the first virtue signal war and as a result winning consists of clapbacks, backlash and mic drops. as long as normies can add the flag to their name, and type yall ukraine will be winning in their minds

What do you mean? Darth Putin didn't see this? His 5D chess mind failed?

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Russia already lost. All russian soft power and tendrils of corruption are being cut and burned off Europe.
Europe will be more free after this conflict, and Russia will remain the pariah state it deserves to be. There are three big outside players trying to destabilize Europe:

Russians
Jews/Americans
Chinamen

Now we can cross Russians off the list, since they aren't going to recover from this ever. They've been exposed to barbaric savages they are, and are below chinese and arab gulf states in respect from European point of view. The change is dramatic, considering Russians were considered being good business partners and before 2014 there were preparations for visa-free Schengen travel to all Russians to come.

It was interesting to get to know you Russians, but it is time we separate. Now we just need to wait for Putin to finish his Russian internet plan and separate your connection to the rest of the world, and we'll get rid of Russians on Any Forums as well. A step towards better world. This war is the best thing that has happened to Europe in a long long time.

>without other countries intervention (real intervention) there is no way Ukraine will ever win against Russia
Thankfully, other countries are helping, eh?

>It was real in my imagination

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Russian army is just adjusting the front, before a strong push durning the winter campaign. And then the iron fist of new mechanised russian divisions will strike fast and strong.

World works like the star wars, marvel etc movies. First it goes very dark and sad, but then a hero appears and keeps winning against all odds. At the end every comes together and celebrates with the bad guys saying "oh that was so silly of me, I was going through some childhood trauma".
And everybody lived happily ever after.

If you want normies to come back to reality then the carnage and fucked up stuff would have to appear on mainstream media. Instead we have suits telling us how everything is going hunky dory and victory in two weeks.

>I am no talking about being right or wrong ethically, I'm just talking about the reality of it. And the reality is that without other countries intervention (real intervention) there is no way Ukraine will ever win against Russia, it's a disproportional force, it's just not possible.

True. thats why we help them so much. we dont want repeat 1939, but now nazis arrive from east.You really belive russian aspiration ends on ukraine? your leaders before war said "or you give us our old borders peacefully (before 1989) or we take them"

thats why all countries around help ukrainian forces.

>It's like Taiwan trying to defend itself against China without real intervention from other countries... Does Taiwan has the geographical position advantage? Yes, does it matter term? No.

we slow down your forces, thats a good thing. Turning Russia in gigantic north korea is also good thing.

>before a strong push durning the winter campaign
You really are retarded aren't you, VPN russian? Nobody's gonna push during winter

Nice war crimes you got there want to bring it to the Hague kid?

If we believe it hard enough, it will be real

Keep making memes in paint while your fellow subhumans are getting killed/captured.

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Soviet Winter campaign of 1941–42 against Nazi Germany during World War II.

The Great North War. The Purging of Novogrod.

And I am not russian, I am a rus living in Poland. My family have lived here since the XIIIth century.

yooo theyre wearing that tarkov rig

Strong monke takes banan from weak monke. The west made you give away 3000 nukes now the west laughs on your face as they send you to the slaughter with vietnam era equipment. Join Russia and have revenge or die in a fild blown up to bits. It's that fucking simple

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It's equal parts cope/seethe and actual propaganda.
If battlefield was the online media, Ukraine would be winning big time. In reality Ukraine is getting absolutely crushed with terrible military losses, economy crash and losing half of its actual population. I'm for one happy to see Yurofags sinking with them.

>You really belive russian aspiration ends on ukraine? your leaders before war said "or you give us our old borders peacefully (before 1989) or we take them"
Yeah. I think the baltic states were on a higher priority list than us, but they've managed to get into NATO just in time.
Kinda scary, considering how anti-NATO rhetoric became a thing few years ago in the west. All of the eastern Europe might be fucked if something happens to it or if the key players will leave it.

Putin doesn't want to dedicate 50k army and mobilize for the war. Zelenski will make every single Ukranian male die, then tell the women to go die after and they will listen to him.

Ukraine can win

If the media acknowledged the reality, they would not be able to justify all the weapons and sanctions. Kiev must be winning, so they can be winning to the last Ukrainian.

ukraine has already lost
this is a war between nato and russia
if the economy crashes and nato can't afford sending billions worth of help anymore, russia wins
as a matter of fact I'm sure that's putin's plan and the reason we don't see any progress in the front lines but a lot of trolling involving gas and oil

Russia as an attacker needs a 10x advantage. Russia doesn't have that. The initial strike had the best chance but Russia lost the war by day 2. Now Russia doesn't have air superiority or any advantage other than artillery. Russia artillery won't last forever. Artillery is the only thing preventing a Russian collapse. I don't see any route Russia has to victory. Even if NATO pulls support Russia still won't be able to push forward or hold the land they took. All Ukraine has to do is continue fighting for the next 5 to 10 years and refuse negotiations.

Every heavy equipment your army used to own is now replaced with western aid. What do you think happened to it and to the operators? You are in no position to talk about casualties. You are zerg rushing russian lines with light infantry and almost 0 artillery while the american jews are rubbing their hands.

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lmfao, shut the fuck up zog slave

All this war proved is that european leaders will sacrifice their own people in order to score a geopolitcal win for their masters. Europe is done and will never recover

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you make a good job, knock the teeth out of the monster from the east

Unfathomably based. European leaders will do this bc they are fucking kikes without a drop of european blood.

>nato can't afford sending billions worth of help anymore
NATO isn't sending new stuff to Ukraine. NATO is sending 20 year old weapons that Russia can't handle. The war hasn't even affected the NATO budget.

he says the truth poland sent tanks by which our ministry of defense was criticized (that they have them) because they are not able to penetrate the armor of modern European tanks in a conventional war

interestingly enough these tanks enter the armor of Russian tanks like butter

Depends how willing russia is and how long their economy is stable enough to support a long war. It doesn't matter if Ukraine loses or wins. In the end Russia has already shot itself in the head. It will be a slow death over the next 5 years but a death nonetheless. Even if they took all of Ukraine they would just have sectarianism further bleeding the state. This is russias last real power play and its been a poor showing. Demographic collapse is inevitable and foreign capital is going away rapidly. Russia simply does not have the population, industry, or tech to survive without western money and manufacturing. China and India are not even able to fill a quarter of what Russia is losing from western imports. The math just doesn't add up and the Chinese demographics collapse to nearly half their current population by 2050 means they will be a dwindling importer. An unreliable trade partner quickly weakening. A crippled population means less income and output. No way around the obvious marh on what that means.

This whole thing is the last breath of old dead empires in the west and east. Its just getting a push from everything going on but nothing can reverse the trend of population decline at this point. A declining power like Russia is not going to reverse its fortune by invading Ukraine. All they gain is land with hostile people, debt, outflow of capital, constrained trade, and a bled military. None of this makes Russia stronger or more prosperous. But people will tell me its making Russia strong or competitive in the future. I really doubt it. A locked currency, collapsing demographics, and the largest outflow of capital since the USSR shows an obvious picture.

To paraphrase Churchill, best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with average voter.

>A lot of people that I have talked to think that it's not only possible, but that yes, Ukraine is/will win...
Stop talking to retards.